[liberationtech] Strength of Political Action, In The Era of COVID-19... More Theatrics & Side-Shows.
David Stodolsky
dss at socialinformatics.org
Fri Apr 24 22:28:52 CEST 2020
> On 24 Apr 2020, at 20:29, msunet <msunet at shellblade.net> wrote:
>
> There was some talk about this at the Flatten the Curve Summit. At first, I thought this technology would be interesting, but now I have doubts about it. It doesn't seem very useful to trace people if you can't test them, first of all.
If traces are not already being collected, then the test result can’t be transmitted to likely exposed persons.
> I also wonder how the random numbers are generated -- will they use your device or advertising ID? How can you tell when they embed this technology in their proprietary, secret OSes anyway? I also haven't seen what the authentication layer is -- will you need a google account? -- or more generally, how they plan to protect the system from attackers. It's also not clear to me who owns the data, where it is stored, how much of it, or for how long. And when does the tracing end?
Apple/Google anouncement covers this.
> They also have not solved fundamental problems about this tech, like signals going through walls.
Sound can also be used.
Here are my links:
conflict between France and Apple/Google, because the privacy of the French app is weaker than that permitted by the Apple/Google approach:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52366129 <https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52366129>
https://www.wired.com/story/apple-google-contact-tracing-strengths-weaknesses/ <https://www.wired.com/story/apple-google-contact-tracing-strengths-weaknesses/>
UK app also conflicts:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/16/nhs-in-standoff-with-apple-and-google-over-coronavirus-tracing <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/16/nhs-in-standoff-with-apple-and-google-over-coronavirus-tracing>
These conflicting approaches are dangerous and will not work:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/20/coronavirus-digital-contact-tracing-will-fail-unless-privacy-is-respected-experts-warn <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/20/coronavirus-digital-contact-tracing-will-fail-unless-privacy-is-respected-experts-warn>
Credential solution for low resource areas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3totKQ_BnBc <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3totKQ_BnBc>
https://medium.com/coviid/our-vision-for-covi-id-3ee2a1fe3049 <https://medium.com/coviid/our-vision-for-covi-id-3ee2a1fe3049>
The rights issue:
https://exposurealerting.org/ <https://exposurealerting.org/>
Audio to increase accuracy:
https://www.novid.org/ <https://www.novid.org/>
This addresses privacy issues with audio as a way of with stopping the through-the-wall Bluetooth contact errors:
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/block-ultrasonic-signals-didnt-know-tracking/ <https://www.wired.com/2016/11/block-ultrasonic-signals-didnt-know-tracking/>
One way to self-generate credentials, while protecting privacy
https://blog.openmined.org/ckks-homomorphic-encryption-pytorch-pysyft-seal/ <https://blog.openmined.org/ckks-homomorphic-encryption-pytorch-pysyft-seal/>
https://blog.openmined.org/pysyft-pytorch-intel-sgx/ <https://blog.openmined.org/pysyft-pytorch-intel-sgx/>
Objections:
https://www.wired.com/story/apple-google-contact-tracing-wont-stop-covid-alone/ <https://www.wired.com/story/apple-google-contact-tracing-wont-stop-covid-alone/>
A not that clear objection to Apple/Google standard:
https://medium.com/asecuritysite-when-bob-met-alice/the-flawed-world-of-contact-tracing-wheres-carol-the-tester-3939ac92488a <https://medium.com/asecuritysite-when-bob-met-alice/the-flawed-world-of-contact-tracing-wheres-carol-the-tester-3939ac92488a>
dss
David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics
Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark
dss at socialinformatics.org Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070
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