[liberationtech] The bitcoin terrorists of Idlib are learning new tricks

Marc Sunet msunet at shellblade.net
Sun May 23 04:31:04 CEST 2021


I don't mean to digress or justify the riot, but as far as I have read, 
the whole story about the fire extinguisher to the head was just not true:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer

https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/

On 5/21/21 12:19 PM, Lorelei Kelly wrote:
> indeed. so tiresome.   I feel especially insulted by this spewing 
> anti-social nonsense as someone who worked in the US Capitol campus 
> (until it became an armed camp).   Those nihilistic goons terrorized 
> or killed my colleagues (the Capitol Hill police)  Enough already with 
> the MadMax ranting.  We have so many real and perilous challenges 
> before us.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:03 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker 
> <phill at hallambaker.com <mailto:phill at hallambaker.com>> wrote:
>
>     I find the Trotskyite-Libertarianism of the coinsplainers to be a
>     crushing bore. The arguments are infantile, ignorant and insulting.
>
>     Don't be fooled by the techno-babble, these same people have been
>     at the same old libertopian schemes since the mid 90s. Every time
>     it is different, every time it is the same. The Feds crushed
>     e-Gold which was beyond reach of government. Then the Feds crushed
>     gold age which beyond reach of government. BitCoin is the reason
>     gas prices soared last week with the Colonial Pipeline attack.
>     Fixing cybersecurity is expensive. Criminalizing crypto-currencies
>     is a much cheaper approach.
>
>     I see absolutely nothing moral in crypto-currencies. Anyone can
>     prattle on about 'freedom'. Tump's jackbooted goons stormed the
>     capitol on Jan 6th in the name of 'freedom', they called everyone
>     who opposed them 'sheep'. By their fruits shall ye know them:
>     grarpamp's language clearly shows him to be a bully. His only
>     concept of 'freedom' is there being nothing to stop him bullying
>     others.
>
>
>
>
>
>     On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 10:46 AM Lorelei Kelly
>     <loreleikelly at gmail.com <mailto:loreleikelly at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         honest question grarpamp, what is your vision of a shared future?
>         Where I'm from is the most unhealthy, violent and poor part of
>         the USA.  PLUS,  everyone has sawed off shotguns and other
>         arsenals in their basement.  This kind of well-armed defensive
>         paranoia is not that unusual in rural America.  Do you really
>         think your version of the world would work in places like
>         this?  People here don't even have bank accounts or Internet.
>         I know what would happen.  The most vulnerable, defenseless
>         people would be harmed.  Are you serious about these words you
>         spout off?  Do you have a plan for the people who are going to
>         fall between the cracks of your crypto world?   oh yes,
>         "mutual aid"    I'd like to hear a more detailed alternative
>         governing plan, please.
>
>         On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 2:03 AM Marc Sunet
>         <msunet at shellblade.net <mailto:msunet at shellblade.net>> wrote:
>
>             "...but the men’s eyes remain locked on the price chart –
>             they are
>             trying to turn $10 into $20."
>
>             Constantinople, here I come...
>
>             On 4/7/21 5:49 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>             >>
>             https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria
>             <https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria>
>             > Anti-crypto FUD. Go look at all what kind of murder
>             > crime fraud etc the govts and everyone else does with
>             > many billions of dollars, rubles, yuan, etc.
>             > While both have similar crime ratios, fiat is still much
>             > larger net usage thus it carries magnitudes more crime.
>             > But fake news media wouldn't get any propaganda jobs,
>             > money, or influence in honestly reporting that fiat story.
>             >
>             >> learning ... crypto
>             > Yes learn and adopt distributed crypto, move past all your
>             > colosally obese growing governments that are starting shit,
>             > stomping around the world murdering thousand and thousands,
>             > torturing, prisoning, starving, stealing money from you
>             under
>             > threat of death to stuff their own crony wallets,
>             spyveillancing and
>             > passporting you entire life forever, FUD program on 24x7
>             in your fake
>             > news, plotting more ways for GovCorp power to keep
>             sucking your life.
>             > Soon you won't even have the cash they keep printing to
>             intentionally
>             > devalue your wealth and living ability with, saddling
>             you with
>             > more and more of their wasted debt load... since they
>             > are now officially rolling out their worthless cashless
>             society
>             > fake crypto fiat called Central Bank Digital Currencies
>             CBDC's,
>             > MMT and UBI to screw and spy and control you even more,
>             turn you
>             > off and forfeit you in a second, and cancel your activism,
>             > freespeech, dissent, freedom... totalitarian control in
>             the extreme.
>             > Govt lately saying you cant secede to have bit of
>             independence
>             > and freedom (catalan, hong kong, taiwan, etc...), locking
>             > you down fining you shutting down your business all 2020
>             corona,
>             > politicians baldly lying being idiots on your news, social
>             > scoring gone insane. Yet not a peep of effective resistance.
>             >
>             > Wake up sheeple, to what in the world is happening.
>             > GovCorp trying to end your monetary freedom,
>             > cashless, etc is no joke... you will lose remaining freedom.
>             > You are free beautiful people.
>             > You don't need them or their crap anymore.
>             > You have crypto, can organize and do and build
>             > and teach and roads and charity and health and
>             > live as you wish locally and wider, voluntarily, together.
>             > Go create freedom.
>             >
>             > Here are some surrounding subjects hinted in article,
>             > with two of them exposing a big underlying problem...
>             >
>             http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf
>             <http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf>
>             > https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal
>             <https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal>
>             > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug
>             <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug>
>             > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288
>             <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288>
>             >
>             https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram
>             <https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram>
>             > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E
>             <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E>
>             >
>             > ps: Govts about to start WWIII. If you adopted
>             > crypto like crypto libertarians told you, you could easily
>             > leave funding their wars, and them, off the list of
>             > things you choose to pay for.
>             >
>             > Your old "voting" obviously didn't get you any more freedom,
>             > maybe the new distributed privacy crypto hotness will.
>             >
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