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<p>I don't mean to digress or justify the riot, but as far as I have
read, the whole story about the fire extinguisher to the head was
just not true:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer">https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/">https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">indeed. so tiresome. I feel especially insulted
by this spewing anti-social nonsense as someone who worked in
the US Capitol campus (until it became an armed camp). Those
nihilistic goons terrorized or killed my colleagues (the Capitol
Hill police) Enough already with the MadMax ranting. We have
so many real and perilous challenges before us. <br>
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PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <<a
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
find the Trotskyite-Libertarianism of the
coinsplainers to be a crushing bore. The arguments
are infantile, ignorant and insulting.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't
be fooled by the techno-babble, these same people
have been at the same old libertopian schemes since
the mid 90s. Every time it is different, every time
it is the same. The Feds crushed e-Gold which was
beyond reach of government. Then the Feds crushed
gold age which beyond reach of government. BitCoin
is the reason gas prices soared last week with the
Colonial Pipeline attack. Fixing cybersecurity is
expensive. Criminalizing crypto-currencies is a much
cheaper approach.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
see absolutely nothing moral in crypto-currencies.
Anyone can prattle on about 'freedom'. Tump's
jackbooted goons stormed the capitol on Jan 6th in
the name of 'freedom', they called everyone who
opposed them 'sheep'. By their fruits shall ye know
them: grarpamp's language clearly shows him to be a
bully. His only concept of 'freedom' is there being
nothing to stop him bullying others.</div>
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at 10:46 AM Lorelei Kelly <<a
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<div>honest question grarpamp, what is your vision
of a shared future? <br>
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<div>Where I'm from is the most unhealthy, violent
and poor part of the USA. PLUS, everyone has
sawed off shotguns and other arsenals in their
basement. This kind of well-armed defensive
paranoia is not that unusual in rural America. Do
you really think your version of the world would
work in places like this? People here don't even
have bank accounts or Internet. I know what would
happen. The most vulnerable, defenseless people
would be harmed. Are you serious about these
words you spout off? Do you have a plan for the
people who are going to fall between the cracks of
your crypto world? oh yes, "mutual aid" I'd
like to hear a more detailed alternative governing
plan, please. <br>
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2021 at 2:03 AM Marc Sunet <<a
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men’s eyes remain locked on the price chart – they
are <br>
trying to turn $10 into $20."<br>
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Constantinople, here I come...<br>
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On 4/7/21 5:49 AM, grarpamp wrote:<br>
>> <a
href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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> Anti-crypto FUD. Go look at all what kind of
murder<br>
> crime fraud etc the govts and everyone else
does with<br>
> many billions of dollars, rubles, yuan, etc.<br>
> While both have similar crime ratios, fiat is
still much<br>
> larger net usage thus it carries magnitudes
more crime.<br>
> But fake news media wouldn't get any
propaganda jobs,<br>
> money, or influence in honestly reporting
that fiat story.<br>
><br>
>> learning ... crypto<br>
> Yes learn and adopt distributed crypto, move
past all your<br>
> colosally obese growing governments that are
starting shit,<br>
> stomping around the world murdering thousand
and thousands,<br>
> torturing, prisoning, starving, stealing
money from you under<br>
> threat of death to stuff their own crony
wallets, spyveillancing and<br>
> passporting you entire life forever, FUD
program on 24x7 in your fake<br>
> news, plotting more ways for GovCorp power to
keep sucking your life.<br>
> Soon you won't even have the cash they keep
printing to intentionally<br>
> devalue your wealth and living ability with,
saddling you with<br>
> more and more of their wasted debt load...
since they<br>
> are now officially rolling out their
worthless cashless society<br>
> fake crypto fiat called Central Bank Digital
Currencies CBDC's,<br>
> MMT and UBI to screw and spy and control you
even more, turn you<br>
> off and forfeit you in a second, and cancel
your activism,<br>
> freespeech, dissent, freedom... totalitarian
control in the extreme.<br>
> Govt lately saying you cant secede to have
bit of independence<br>
> and freedom (catalan, hong kong, taiwan,
etc...), locking<br>
> you down fining you shutting down your
business all 2020 corona,<br>
> politicians baldly lying being idiots on your
news, social<br>
> scoring gone insane. Yet not a peep of
effective resistance.<br>
><br>
> Wake up sheeple, to what in the world is
happening.<br>
> GovCorp trying to end your monetary freedom,<br>
> cashless, etc is no joke... you will lose
remaining freedom.<br>
> You are free beautiful people.<br>
> You don't need them or their crap anymore.<br>
> You have crypto, can organize and do and
build<br>
> and teach and roads and charity and health
and<br>
> live as you wish locally and wider,
voluntarily, together.<br>
> Go create freedom.<br>
><br>
> Here are some surrounding subjects hinted in
article,<br>
> with two of them exposing a big underlying
problem...<br>
> <a
href="http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf</a><br>
> <a
href="https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal</a><br>
> <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug</a><br>
> <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288</a><br>
> <a
href="https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram</a><br>
> <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E</a><br>
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> ps: Govts about to start WWIII. If you
adopted<br>
> crypto like crypto libertarians told you, you
could easily<br>
> leave funding their wars, and them, off the
list of<br>
> things you choose to pay for.<br>
><br>
> Your old "voting" obviously didn't get you
any more freedom,<br>
> maybe the new distributed privacy crypto
hotness will.<br>
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