[liberationtech] Harri Hursti hacks an e-voting machine, from Hacking Democracy, HBO

Wed Apr 6 21:46:08 PDT 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xIAzCM3OYYc#at=24

Pranesh, et al

What do you say about this hack?

Sheila

At 07:05 PM 4/6/2011, Sheila Parks wrote:
>Thx so much for your fast response
>
>Do you have a date for the paper?
>
>:Please, see our web site, below and look at the Articles page and 
>on hand-counting
>
>I observed the counting of several hand-counted paper ballots 
>elections in real time and it is very doable
>
>As you prob know, Ireland, Netherlands and Gemany went back to HCPB, 
>although I heard today that Ireland has left HCPB and went to IRV 
>instead, alas.
>
>It feels to me that you are talking about Egypt being a "developing 
>country" and so cannot use HCPB the same way some say, low income 
>kids in school cannot use the same methods that rich kids do.
>
>I don't think you mean that, so I am wondering precisely what you do 
>mean and why?
>
>When I posted the email about Egypt learning from India on my FB and 
>Twitter accounts, I said that here we go = when Hillary Clinton 
>asked India to help Egypt with voting now, we do have proof that 
>rigging elections is a bi-partisan industry. To name two of the most 
>obvious, Gore and Kerry won the election in 2000 and 2004 and Bush 
>was in the WH. And, the question remains, why did both Gore and 
>Coakley concede so fast, and Moakly here in MA when she lost 
>Kennedy's seat and so many of us voting rights activists were 
>begging all three of them not to concede at all,  Then there is 
>another famous one, when Max Cleland lost to Chambliss in an "upset".
>
>I am eager to hear what you say, after you read what is being done
>
>Thx again
>
>Sheila
>
>At 06:56 PM 4/6/2011, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
>>Dear Sheila,
>>It's a public paper, and it was recently discussed in passing on 
>>this very list.  I also think the conclusion is a bit disingenuous 
>>when it suggests that paper ballots might actually be better suited 
>>to a developing country with a large population (while I agree that 
>>a paper audit trail would improve the system).
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Pranesh
>>
>>On Thursday 07 April 2011 04:22 AM, Sheila Parks wrote:
>>>Is this paper from Haldermann a published paper? And can I repost it
>>>also, or is it just you, Rebecca that has permission?
>>>
>>>Also, I cannot find a date on it? Am I not seeing it? Do you know the date?
>>>
>>>Thx so much
>>>
>>>Sheila
>>>
>>>At 05:24 PM 4/6/2011, Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
>>>>Alex Halderman from UMich/Princeton CITP has this to say about that
>>>>report (shared with his permission):
>>>>
>>>>"It was recently reported that Egyptian officials have been reaching
>>>>out to India's election commission for guidance:
>>>><http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-05/india/29383962_1_iidem-s-y-quraishi-evms>http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-05/india/29383962_1_iidem-s-y-quraishi-evms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wonder whether they'll adopt similar technology. If they were to
>>>>deploy the same kind of machines that India uses, my chief concern
>>>>would be their vulnerability to centralized insider fraud.
>>>>
>>>>(See my India EVM paper:
>>>><http://www.cse.umich.edu/%7Ejhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf>http://www.cse.umich.edu/~jhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf
>>>>)"
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>Rebecca
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, David Jandura
>>>><<mailto:djandura at ifes.org>djandura at ifes.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From <http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/389398>Al-Masry Al Youm:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Egyptian government is preparing to introduce an electronic voting
>>>>system for the upcoming parliamentary elections scheduled for
>>>>September. Refaat Qemsan, head of the Interior Ministry's elections
>>>>department, said the system will allow eligible citizens to vote by
>>>>submitting their national identity card data online.
>>>>
>>>>At a forum held Tuesday in Cairo, Qemsan said current election laws
>>>>only concern Egyptians residing in Egypt, adding that most expatriate
>>>>Egyptians do not have Egyptian IDs. Qemsan called for including
>>>>expatriate Egyptians in any new voting system. Maged Othman, minister
>>>>of communications and information technology, said the country is
>>>>ready to introduce an electronic system of voting in time for the
>>>>parliamentary and presidential elections. However, observers believe
>>>>Egyptian elections laws stand in the way of implementing such a system
>>>>because they refer to paper voter lists and ballot boxes. Egyptian
>>>>political parties and movements have said they would like the
>>>>electronic system to first be piloted in club and syndicate elections
>>>>before being implemented in national elections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>E-voting can mean both automated machines or internet voting so I'm
>>>>not sure what they are proposing here. The expatriate aspect leads me
>>>>to believe they mean internet voting, as unbelievable as that sounds.
>>>>Has anybody heard any information on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David Jandura | Research Associate| IFES (International Foundation for
>>>>Electoral Systems)
>>>>1850 K Street NW, Fifth Floor | Washington, D.C. 20006 | (
>>>><tel:%2B1%20202-350-6742>+1 202-350-6742 | Skype: david.jandura
>>>>
>>>><http://www.ifes.org/>www.ifes.org | www.electionguide.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>IFES promotes democratic stability by providing technical assistance
>>>>and applying field-based research to the electoral cycle worldwide to
>>>>enhance citizen participation and strengthen civil societies,
>>>>governance and transparency.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><http://www.linkedin.com/company/19274>
>>>>Follow us on LinkedIn
>>>><https://twitter.com/#%21/electionguide>
>>>>cid:image002.gif at 01CBED7D.09C40F90
>>>>
>>>><http://www.flickr.com/people/international_foundation_for_electoral_systems/>
>>>>
>>>>Join us on Facebook
>>>><http://www.youtube.com/user/ElectionGuide>
>>>>cid:image004.gif at 01CBED7D.09C40F90
>>>><http://www.facebook.com/electionguide>
>>>>cid:image005.gif at 01CBED7D.09C40F90
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use
>>>>of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain
>>>>information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential,
>>>>and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as
>>>>attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are
>>>>hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying
>>>>of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>>>>this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and
>>>>(i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message
>>>>immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>liberationtech mailing list
>>>><mailto:liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to:
>>>>
>>>><https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech>https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you
>>>>click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a
>>>>daily digest?"
>>>>
>>>>You will need the user name and password you receive from the list
>>>>moderator in monthly reminders.
>>>>
>>>>Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator.
>>>>
>>>>Please don't forget to follow us on
>>>><http://twitter.com/#%21/Liberationtech>http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Rebecca MacKinnon
>>>>Schwartz Senior Fellow, New America Foundation
>>>>Co-founder, <http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org>GlobalVoicesOnline.org
>>>>Cell: +1-617-939-3493
>>>>E-mail: <mailto:rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com>rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com
>>>>Blog: <http://RConversation.blogs.com>RConversation.blogs.com
>>>>Twitter: <http://twitter.com/rmack>@rmack
>>>>Facebook: <http://facebook.com/rmackinnon>facebook.com/rmackinnon
>>>>
>>>>Content-Type: image/gif; name="image005.gif"
>>>>Content-ID: <image005.gif at 01CBF471.8BE5B500>
>>>>X-Attachment-Id: 2149eaec530009b9_0.0.5
>>>>
>>>>Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif"
>>>>Content-ID: <image001.gif at 01CBF471.8BE5B500>
>>>>X-Attachment-Id: 2149eaec530009b9_0.0.1
>>>>
>>>>Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="image003.jpg"
>>>>Content-ID: <image003.jpg at 01CBF471.8BE5B500>
>>>>X-Attachment-Id: 2149eaec530009b9_0.0.3
>>>>
>>>>Content-Type: image/gif; name="image004.gif"
>>>>Content-ID: <image004.gif at 01CBF471.8BE5B500>
>>>>X-Attachment-Id: 2149eaec530009b9_0.0.4
>>>>
>>>>Content-Type: image/gif; name="image002.gif"
>>>>Content-ID: <image002.gif at 01CBF471.8BE5B500>
>>>>X-Attachment-Id: 2149eaec530009b9_0.0.2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>liberationtech mailing list
>>>>liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
>>>>
>>>>Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to:
>>>>
>>>>https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>>>>
>>>>If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you
>>>>click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched in a
>>>>daily digest?"
>>>>
>>>>You will need the user name and password you receive from the list
>>>>moderator in monthly reminders.
>>>>
>>>>Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator.
>>>>
>>>>Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
>>>
>>>Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
>>>Founder
>>>Center for Hand-Counted Paper Ballots
>>>Belmont, MA 02478
>>>617-932-1424
>>>DEMOCRACY IN OUR HANDS
>>>www.handcountedpaperballots.org
>>>sheila at handcountedpaperballots.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>liberationtech mailing list
>>>liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
>>>
>>>Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to:
>>>
>>>https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>>>
>>>If you would like to receive a daily digest, click "yes" (once you 
>>>click above) next to "would you like to receive list mail batched 
>>>in a daily digest?"
>>>
>>>You will need the user name and password you receive from the list 
>>>moderator in monthly reminders.
>>>
>>>Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator.
>>>
>>>Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
>>
>>--
>>Pranesh Prakash
>>Programme Manager
>>Centre for Internet and Society
>>W: http://cis-india.org | T: +91 80 40926283
>>
>Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
>Founder
>Center for Hand-Counted Paper Ballots
>Belmont, MA 02478
>617-932-1424
>DEMOCRACY IN OUR HANDS
>www.handcountedpaperballots.org
>sheila at handcountedpaperballots.org

Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
Founder
Center for Hand-Counted Paper Ballots
Belmont, MA 02478
617-932-1424
DEMOCRACY IN OUR HANDS
www.handcountedpaperballots.org
sheila at handcountedpaperballots.org