[Bigbang-dev] paper on IETF and mailing list analysis

Sebastian Benthall sbenthall at gmail.com
Wed Mar 28 17:04:36 CEST 2018


>
> Interesting. What is the topic though? 'Quantitative mailinglist
> analysis' or rather 'what does qualitative mailinglists analysis teach
> us abt the IETF/ICANN/etc'?
>

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> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org
> > <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Nice find Nick - also no idea how I missed this.
> >
> >     I personally liked the deduplication paper better than the Analysis
> of
> >     IETF activity paper, the graph on affiliation is rly nice and useful
> >     though.
> >
> >     https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/
> 284378066136 <https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/
> 284378066136>
> >
> >     Happy to link with other people and understand their approaches!
> >
> >     Best,
> >
> >     Niels
> >
> >
> >     Niels ten Oever
> >
> >     Article 19
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> >     On 03/26/2018 11:03 PM, Nick Doty wrote:
> >     > Also, it looks like their follow-on paper specifically considers
> the
> >     > problem of identifying individuals who use different email
> addresses,
> >     > what we've been working on and calling "entity resolution":
> >     > https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23
> >     <https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23>
> >     >
> >     > And following citations from these papers, I see that there's an
> ongoing
> >     > project at the Syracuse I School about studying open source
> software
> >     > development communities, called FLOSSmole. That includes trying to
> >     > gather common datasets to share for analysis, and one of the people
> >     > involved has written about common infrastructure for studying
> mailing
> >     > list archives.
> >     > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?
> anchor=references
> >     <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?
> anchor=references>
> >     >
> >     > Note, some of these websites are kinda broken because their
> certificates
> >     > are messed up, but if you're willing to risk adding an exception, I
> >     > think the static content is still fine:
> >     > https://flossmole.org/
> >     > https://floss.syr.edu/
> >     >
> >     > I'm not sure how I missed all this before, but I think there is
> existing
> >     > work / people to collaborate with.
> >     >
> >     > —Nick
> >     >
> >     >> On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Nick Doty <
> npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu>
> >     >> <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:npdoty at ischool.
> berkeley.edu>>>
> >     wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> Has anyone seen this paper or spoken with the authors?
> >     >>
> >     >> Niedermayer, Heiko, et al. "An analysis of IETF activities using
> >     >> mailing lists and social media." /International Conference on
> >     Internet
> >     >> Science/. Springer, Cham, 2016.
> >     >>
> >     >> https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/
> papers/INSCI_2016.pdf
> >     <https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/
> papers/INSCI_2016.pdf>
> >     >>
> >     >> Authors are at the Technical University of Munich.
> >     >>
> >     >> It's remarkably similar / related to our current working on
> analysis
> >     >> of IETF activity using mailing lists, and even includes some
> similar
> >     >> graphs to ones I've shown on perpass / other list activity
> >     >> post-Snowden. They also looked at Twitter references to RFCs,
> although
> >     >> they appear to conclude that there isn't as much going on there.
> They
> >     >> could also be potential collaborators; I'm not sure if there's a
> whole
> >     >> lot else they've done here but I think there's at least one
> follow-on
> >     >> paper from last year.
> >     >>
> >     >> Cheers,
> >     >> Nick
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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