[Bigbang-dev] paper on IETF and mailing list analysis

Sebastian Benthall sbenthall at gmail.com
Wed Mar 28 17:09:01 CEST 2018


I may be able to get some people at NYU interested in this, depending on
how things go.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Sebastian Benthall <sbenthall at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Interesting. What is the topic though? 'Quantitative mailinglist
>> analysis' or rather 'what does qualitative mailinglists analysis teach
>> us abt the IETF/ICANN/etc'?
>>
>
> Innovations in sustainable mixed methods research techniques for studying
> Internet Governance.
>
> The beginning of an on-going civil society effort to monitor and report on
> Internet Governance.
>
> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org
>> > <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Nice find Nick - also no idea how I missed this.
>> >
>> >     I personally liked the deduplication paper better than the Analysis
>> of
>> >     IETF activity paper, the graph on affiliation is rly nice and useful
>> >     though.
>> >
>> >     https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/28
>> 4378066136 <https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/28
>> 4378066136>
>> >
>> >     Happy to link with other people and understand their approaches!
>> >
>> >     Best,
>> >
>> >     Niels
>> >
>> >
>> >     Niels ten Oever
>> >
>> >     Article 19
>> >     www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
>> >
>> >     PGP fingerprint    2458 0B70 5C4A FD8A 9488
>> >                        643A 0ED8 3F3A 468A C8B3
>> >
>> >     On 03/26/2018 11:03 PM, Nick Doty wrote:
>> >     > Also, it looks like their follow-on paper specifically considers
>> the
>> >     > problem of identifying individuals who use different email
>> addresses,
>> >     > what we've been working on and calling "entity resolution":
>> >     > https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23
>> >     <https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23>
>> >     >
>> >     > And following citations from these papers, I see that there's an
>> ongoing
>> >     > project at the Syracuse I School about studying open source
>> software
>> >     > development communities, called FLOSSmole. That includes trying to
>> >     > gather common datasets to share for analysis, and one of the
>> people
>> >     > involved has written about common infrastructure for studying
>> mailing
>> >     > list archives.
>> >     > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?anchor
>> =references
>> >     <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?anch
>> or=references>
>> >     >
>> >     > Note, some of these websites are kinda broken because their
>> certificates
>> >     > are messed up, but if you're willing to risk adding an exception,
>> I
>> >     > think the static content is still fine:
>> >     > https://flossmole.org/
>> >     > https://floss.syr.edu/
>> >     >
>> >     > I'm not sure how I missed all this before, but I think there is
>> existing
>> >     > work / people to collaborate with.
>> >     >
>> >     > —Nick
>> >     >
>> >     >> On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Nick Doty <
>> npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu>
>> >     >> <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:
>> npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu>>>
>> >     wrote:
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Has anyone seen this paper or spoken with the authors?
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Niedermayer, Heiko, et al. "An analysis of IETF activities using
>> >     >> mailing lists and social media." /International Conference on
>> >     Internet
>> >     >> Science/. Springer, Cham, 2016.
>> >     >>
>> >     >> https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/pape
>> rs/INSCI_2016.pdf
>> >     <https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/pa
>> pers/INSCI_2016.pdf>
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Authors are at the Technical University of Munich.
>> >     >>
>> >     >> It's remarkably similar / related to our current working on
>> analysis
>> >     >> of IETF activity using mailing lists, and even includes some
>> similar
>> >     >> graphs to ones I've shown on perpass / other list activity
>> >     >> post-Snowden. They also looked at Twitter references to RFCs,
>> although
>> >     >> they appear to conclude that there isn't as much going on there.
>> They
>> >     >> could also be potential collaborators; I'm not sure if there's a
>> whole
>> >     >> lot else they've done here but I think there's at least one
>> follow-on
>> >     >> paper from last year.
>> >     >>
>> >     >> Cheers,
>> >     >> Nick
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
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