[Bigbang-dev] paper on IETF and mailing list analysis

[Niels ten Oever]

On 03/28/2018 04:54 PM, Sebastian Benthall wrote:
> Great finds!
> 
> It would be good to add those to the References wiki:
> https://github.com/datactive/bigbang/wiki/References

+1 !

> 
> It's too bad when there's redundancy around these problems.
> The Munich group's work seems to have been published rather recently.
> 
> I'd like to plant a seed:
> 
> If there's widespread interest in this topic, what about planning a
> Symposium specifically on this topic, and inviting these other research
> groups?
> 

Interesting. What is the topic though? 'Quantitative mailinglist
analysis' or rather 'what does qualitative mailinglists analysis teach
us abt the IETF/ICANN/etc'?

Personally am more interested in helping to organize smth around latter
than the former, but I'd happily participate in the former ofc.

Cheers,

Niels

> 
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org
> <mailto:niels at article19.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Nice find Nick - also no idea how I missed this.
> 
>     I personally liked the deduplication paper better than the Analysis of
>     IETF activity paper, the graph on affiliation is rly nice and useful
>     though.
> 
>     https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/284378066136 <https://isoc.app.box.com/v/IETF101-Photos-Hackathon/file/284378066136>
> 
>     Happy to link with other people and understand their approaches!
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     Niels
> 
> 
>     Niels ten Oever
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>     On 03/26/2018 11:03 PM, Nick Doty wrote:
>     > Also, it looks like their follow-on paper specifically considers the
>     > problem of identifying individuals who use different email addresses,
>     > what we've been working on and calling "entity resolution":
>     > https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23
>     <https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-70284-1_23>
>     >
>     > And following citations from these papers, I see that there's an ongoing
>     > project at the Syracuse I School about studying open source software
>     > development communities, called FLOSSmole. That includes trying to
>     > gather common datasets to share for analysis, and one of the people
>     > involved has written about common infrastructure for studying mailing
>     > list archives.
>     > http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?anchor=references
>     <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/6664730/?anchor=references>
>     >
>     > Note, some of these websites are kinda broken because their certificates
>     > are messed up, but if you're willing to risk adding an exception, I
>     > think the static content is still fine:
>     > https://flossmole.org/
>     > https://floss.syr.edu/
>     >
>     > I'm not sure how I missed all this before, but I think there is existing
>     > work / people to collaborate with.
>     >
>     > —Nick
>     >
>     >> On Mar 26, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Nick Doty <npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu>
>     >> <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu <mailto:npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu>>>
>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Has anyone seen this paper or spoken with the authors?
>     >>
>     >> Niedermayer, Heiko, et al. "An analysis of IETF activities using
>     >> mailing lists and social media." /International Conference on
>     Internet
>     >> Science/. Springer, Cham, 2016.
>     >>
>     >> https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/papers/INSCI_2016.pdf
>     <https://www.net.in.tum.de/fileadmin/bibtex/publications/papers/INSCI_2016.pdf>
>     >>
>     >> Authors are at the Technical University of Munich.
>     >>
>     >> It's remarkably similar / related to our current working on analysis
>     >> of IETF activity using mailing lists, and even includes some similar
>     >> graphs to ones I've shown on perpass / other list activity
>     >> post-Snowden. They also looked at Twitter references to RFCs, although
>     >> they appear to conclude that there isn't as much going on there. They
>     >> could also be potential collaborators; I'm not sure if there's a whole
>     >> lot else they've done here but I think there's at least one follow-on
>     >> paper from last year.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers,
>     >> Nick
>     >
>     >
>     >
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