[Tor2web-talk] Serious bug in Tor2web software

Nurmi, Juha juha.nurmi at ahmia.fi
Thu Nov 13 09:38:50 CET 2014


Thanks evilaliv3!

But this does not explain the behavior with
https://skunksworkedp2cg.tor2web.org/sites.html (refresh it few times) and
every other site too. Tor2web software is replacing the URLs in the HTML
with some other domains URLs. Not every time but almost.

-Juha

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Giovanni Pellerano <
giovanni.pellerano at evilaliv3.org> wrote:

> hehe numes :) you seem so worried but form my point of view it's not
> so much bug.
>
> i will surely readly try to understand why the behaviour, (funny) is
> to redirect to a wrong hidden service different from the one
> requested.
>
> by the way apart of solving the redirect to a wrong hidden issue,
> making it working properly won't be so easy.
> infact using tor2web for HTTPS is something that is totally different
> from the tor2web natural address translation that we apply since ever.
>
> let me clarify:
> when a user goes for both http:// and https:// antani.tor2web.org,
> tor2web opens a Tor socks to antani.onion:80
> so what is happening now is that when accessing
> https:://facebook.tor2web.org tor2web opens a Tor sock to
> facebook.onion:80 that appear to google as the user is using HTTP,
> then facebook provide the user a redirect to a different port
> (https/443) and we provide the url to the user; but the next request
> by the user will be the same https:://facebook.tor2web.org and natural
> code flow of tor2web will continue to be opening the 80, not the 443.
>
> so we have to take a decision and all are not correct and contains
> problems as for what they fix they open other bugs:
> 1) instead of opening automatically a socksv5 to 80, portknock the
> 443, if it works open the 443 and use it; (and we can cache this to
> continue to use the 443, but what if an hidden service opens 80 and
> 443 for differnt reasons? wi will end always serving the 443
> 2) automatically try to follow the redirect Location:
> https://facebook.onion in a transparent way for the user. also this
> opens to possibility for tor2web to be forced to reload reload reload
> funny stuff attacking it (that will need to managed with a funny
> cylcle counter)
>
> this and other concern as currently stopping me to proceed fixing the
> issue.
>
> what do you think? maybe we wanna share this thinking on the tor-dev
> mailing list
>
> ciao!
>
> evilaliv3
>
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