[liberationtech] Deep Divers, there is no such thing as liberation tech

[Karl]

Doug,

It sounds like you're aware of the internet being solely
corporate-dominated.

If we had proof that someone were algorithmically ensuring that the
internet stayed corporate-dominated, do you know of a way to preserve and
possibly publicize such proof?

On Tue, May 5, 2020, 11:49 AM Doug Schuler <douglas at publicsphereproject.org>
wrote:

> Technology absolutely has politics since it's embedded within social (and
> material) contexts. I like Langdon's quote in the Whale and the Reactor:
> "Because choices tend to become strongly fixed in material equipment,
> economic investment, and social habit, the original flexibility vanishes
> for all practical purposes once the initial commitments are made."
>
> On the other hand, technology is not strictly deterministic. A hospital
> can be used to help heal people or it can be used to imprison them and to
> perform experiments on them. Television doesn't have to be a solely
> corporate dominated medium nor does the internet — but they are.
>
> — Doug
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:39 AM Aram Sinnreich <aramsinnreich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What do you make of Langdon Winner's work, arguing that sociotechnical
>> artifacts have inherent "politics?"
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On May 5, 2020, at 10:33 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Technology is but an agnostic tool.
>> > There is no such thing as a liberation tech,
>> > only applied tech via paths toward something.
>> > One cannot apply a tech toward liberation
>> > without first considering what a state of being
>> > of actual liberation might variously be about,
>> > to know where to go, what to make with the tech.
>> > Democracy being nothing more than a
>> > decentralized form of the murderous dictators
>> > many claim to be liberating themselves or people from,
>> > both forms hardly a state of liberation at all,
>> > yet worshipped and profferred by all too many,
>> > we therefore continue this random series
>> > on path choices...
>> >
>> > How to be a tyrant. Sound Familiar?
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LtEciQUF8
>> >
>> > Deep Divers, let the balloon go!
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbX-Bvb2u_w
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U3lEc-IFr8
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWLntHoTgDA
>> >
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