[liberationtech] Zoom admitted, then denied, then admitted again that it censored an activist

[Yosem Companys]

What about BlueJeans?






On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 7:44 AM, Julian Oliver julian at julianoliver.com  wrote:
..on Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 05:01:51PM +1000, Sam De Silva wrote:

> https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ isn’t bad.




I agree, and it has improved much the last year. I run a few instances myself

for a large activist movement. 




BigBlueButton is more of a 'Zoom replacement' albeit, with room management and

recording. It also has an integrated whiteboard, Etherpad, allows for slide

share (PDF upload) and screen sharing. I also run a large instance of this on a

dedicated box, 5 figure community using it around the clock. It needs a COTURN

server to give a route for end-points behind a restrictive NAT or firewall

(basically just maps the UDP port range needed by WebRTC to 443). Once tuned,

it's really great. 




Neither are E2EE however, just like Zoom isn't (Zoom lied about that). E2EE for

videoconferencing at scale is really hard.




Cheers,




Julian




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> > On 13 Jun 2020, at 12:28 pm, Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com> wrote:

> > 

> >
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/12/zoom-admits-cutting-off-activists-accounts-in-obedience-to-china
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/12/zoom-admits-cutting-off-activists-accounts-in-obedience-to-china>

> > 

> > So what did we agree is the best end-to-end encrypted alternative?

> > 

> > I tried Cisco Webex, which is Wirecutter-recommended, but it is glitchy
(i.e., the dial-in numbers often do not work).

> > 

> > https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-video-conferencing-service/
<https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-video-conferencing-service/>

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