[liberationtech] BlueJeans claims to offer secure video conferencing. Is that true?

Lorelei Kelly loreleikelly at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 19:56:22 CEST 2020


hi everybody,
my friend Paul put together a very handy guide to teleconferencing
platforms:

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ttps://videoconferencing.guide/?fbclid=IwAR0pQfUGJsxB_iGaFUa_Xo_aHF1jWmYS9_3NQmFdmLhKHIoNdEbzIPskNQk
<https://videoconferencing.guide/?fbclid=IwAR0pQfUGJsxB_iGaFUa_Xo_aHF1jWmYS9_3NQmFdmLhKHIoNdEbzIPskNQk>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:23 AM msunet <msunet at shellblade.net> wrote:

> +1 on bo0od's question-asking framework. Like we saw with zoom, you cannot
> rely on the marketing or anything a company tells you these days. The
> source code and their actions speak for themselves.
>
> I am also not a lawyer, but false marketing like this could be illegal
> (especially if that gives you an edge on competitors). For these cases, I
> always email the EFF at info at eff.org (gpg keys on their Website).
>
> On April 20, 2020 10:14:16 AM PDT, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <
> alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Unfortunate part of this type of marketing appeal is that it works and draws lots of people (including a niece that had a supercool literary reading on that service yesterday thinking it was better than the alternatives I guess - zoom google etc..)
>>
>> But if it’s false then I hope lawyers get to work and file “deceitful Advertising “ lawsuits against the service..
>>
>> Regards / Saludos / Grato
>>
>> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:51 AM, bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> it doesnt matter if its mentioned in wikipedia or not, but the questions should be asked before checking any service:
>>>
>>> - Is it based on free/libre software?
>>> - How much they value your privacy through lets say decentralization or ability to host your own service or its working over Tor and I2P ...etc
>>>
>>>
>>> well if we try to apply both of these points on BlueJeans service we gonna have DirtyJeans.
>>>
>>> Website blocking Tor users access thats just first indication of horrible service:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> Access Denied
>>> You don't have permission to access "http://www.bluejeans.com/" on this server.
>>>
>>> Reference #18.85uk0017.1587390690.13d1497c
>>> ```
>>>
>>> BlueJeans' website https://www.bluejeans.com/ says so, "Empower Your Remote
>>>> Workforce with Secure Video Conferencing," but Wikipedia
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans does not say anything, not that that is
>>>> or should be the most authoritative source!
>>>>
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