[liberationtech] BlueJeans claims to offer secure video conferencing. Is that true?

[Richard Brooks]

"Depends on what the meaning of is is." In general, secure is
currently such a poorly defined concept that I do not see
how you could realistically say they are not.

The terms "Secure" and "Private" have been abused so much,
and the vast majority of systems referred to as secure(private)
are not.

The current definition of "secure" seems to be that the
vendor pushes out patches frequently. Or, maybe they force
you into using passwords that are impossible to remember.

I doubt you can really call it false advertising.

On 4/20/20 1:14 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote:
> The Unfortunate part of this type of marketing appeal is that it works and draws lots of people (including a niece that had a supercool literary reading on that service yesterday thinking it was better than the alternatives I guess - zoom google etc..)
> 
> But if it’s false then I hope lawyers get to work and file “deceitful Advertising “ lawsuits against the service..
> 
> Regards / Saludos / Grato
> 
> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:51 AM, bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> it doesnt matter if its mentioned in wikipedia or not, but the questions should be asked before checking any service:
>>
>> - Is it based on free/libre software?
>> - How much they value your privacy through lets say decentralization or ability to host your own service or its working over Tor and I2P ...etc
>>
>>
>> well if we try to apply both of these points on BlueJeans service we gonna have DirtyJeans.
>>
>> Website blocking Tor users access thats just first indication of horrible service:
>>
>> ```
>> Access Denied
>> You don't have permission to access "http://www.bluejeans.com/" on this server.
>>
>> Reference #18.85uk0017.1587390690.13d1497c
>> ```
>>
>>> BlueJeans' website https://www.bluejeans.com/ says so, "Empower Your Remote
>>> Workforce with Secure Video Conferencing," but Wikipedia
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans does not say anything, not that that is
>>> or should be the most authoritative source!
>>
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