[liberationtech] Billions of reasons why officials should not trust Zoom
Richard Brooks
rrb at g.clemson.edu
Thu Apr 9 21:01:33 CEST 2020
Sealand.
On 4/9/20 2:54 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Probably the small ones: Estonia, for example.
>
>
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> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 6:52 PM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> alps6085 at gmail.com <mailto:alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> __ Hey Doug, PLEASE, I’d like a simple example of, not even the
> plural you used, but a single one: “governments [that] are all
> acting on our behalf, *which may actually be true in some locations
> in the world!!!"*
>
> Besides, there is a huge difference between “planning in secret”
> (BTW, the usual rule in ALL of the FIRST WORLD) and issues of
> encryption..😈
>
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
>
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> <alps at acm.org <mailto:alps at acm.org>>
> +1 (347) 766-5008
>
>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Doug Schuler
>> <douglas at publicsphereproject.org
>> <mailto:douglas at publicsphereproject.org>> wrote:
>>
>> This is in no way to argue against security and the ability to
>> keep organized crime from going where they don't belong —
>> especially for financial transactions and private information. On
>> the other hand the line "Our governments and their officials
>> should plan in secret" seems to strengthen the hand of despotic
>> governments. It seems to imply that these governments are all
>> acting on our behalf, which may actually be true in some locations
>> in the world. I believe that government is absolutely necessary
>> but without transparency things are hopeless. In fact, maybe the
>> new emphasis on conferencing *could* help open things up. I'm in
>> a foul humor because I live in the US and yes, "our" government
>> does try very hard to "plan in secret."
>>
>> — Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:58 AM Tim McNamara
>> <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz <mailto:paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, keen to receive any feedback on this blog post I'm
>> drafting...
>>
>>
>> Billions of reasons why officials should not trust Zoom
>>
>> This year has seen governments take unprecedented action to
>> defeat the world's most significant public health threat in
>> over a century. Much of that action involves money. Lots of money.
>>
>> Officials and politicians deciding on economic stimulus
>> packages around have a problem: they can't talk face-to-face
>> behind closed doors like they're used to. Instead, they're
>> turning to technology. Many of these services have unproven
>> security credentials. Using insecure tools will allow the
>> worst elements in our societies to benefit from the crisis.
>>
>> Starting now, there is an increased financial incentive to
>> break into video conferencing systems. Billions, perhaps
>> trillions, of dollars of subsidy money will be provided by
>> governments around the world. That money will be unevenly
>> spread. Many companies will fall. Some will not.
>>
>> Organised criminals and hostile nation-states have significant
>> technological resources. They are well placed to exploit
>> misplaced trust in computer systems. Our governments and their
>> officials should plan in secret. Guaranteed secrecy while
>> decisions are being made is the best way to keep economies alive.
>>
>> Governments should consider hosting their own video
>> conferencing platform. Open-source tools such as Jitsi Meet,
>> BigBlueButton and Apache OpenMeetings can all be deployed
>> cost-effectively and securely behind a firewall. Perhaps most
>> importantly, they don't require meeting participants to
>> install anything onto their computer.
>>
>> Deploying these open source video conferencing technologies
>> provides multiple benefits. The security within the system can
>> be validated. Staff managing the service can be vetted. Data
>> can stay local. Most importantly though, secrets can stay secret.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Original https://cloud.nzoss.nz/s/F2r3rDZsEaypKNf
>>
>>
>> *Tim McNamara*
>> Vice President, New Zealand Open Source Society
>> Author, Rust in Action
>> https://tim.mcnamara.nz <https://tim.mcnamara.nz/> |
>> @timClicks <http://twitter.com/timClicks>
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