[liberationtech] Former FB security chief Alex Stamos consulting with Zoom on securityand safety

[Madeline Barker]

Ok but y’all just trying to get some practical advice here 😂 🤠

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 2:11 PM Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <
alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK granted they’re evil, just like the McDonalds hamburger you eat every
> once in a while, or the car you drive around and its carbon footprint. But
> not EVIL INCARNATE! 😈🤠
>
>
> And my two cents on alternative platforms like Jitsi: between 2 and 3
> years ago I had a series of videoconferences regarding employment with a
> supercool company **NOT EVEN EVIL!😈** and they were through JITSI. Not a
> pleasant experience. Now imagine that platform suddenly having to deliver
> to millions if not billions of people online in remote classes, meetings,
> chats, etc etc.. Granted, it was 2+ years ago, but nothing gets super
> better in that time lapse anygüeys.
>
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
>
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> <alps at acm.org>
> +1 (347) 766-5008
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:35 PM, bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> who said in all what you have mentioned they are secure not evil? apple
> and google not evil? proprietary hardware backdoors not evil?
>
> so yes, just because something is PROPRIETARY it is EVIL , and first harm
> its doing which is locking user freedom not to mention censorship and ..etc
>
> We can say proprietary harmfulness can be from 1 - 10 but there is no 0 ,
> all of them are harmful.
>
> Nice collection to look at for e.g:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/
>
> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes:
>
> bo0od,
> Apple is PROPRIETARY
> Most computer hardware is PROPRIETARY
> Google stuff is PROPRIETARY
> Most Internet Service Providers available to most people are VERY
> PROPRIETARY
> So, in that context, your comment seems to be moot. Just because something
> is PROPRIETARY doesn’t mean it’s EVIL INCARNATE. It may not be perfect, it
> certainly will have many flaws, some of them serious, but I bet and confirm
> in my personal experience that it also has many positives.
> Regards / Saludos / Grato
> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:52 PM, bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> what a stupid discussion. To make it smart one first FREE SOFTWARE THE
> APP!! then we talk about smartness , security , privacy...etc
>
> Zoom is PROPRIETARY based in USA.
>
> Yosem Companys:
>
> tform and his
> willingness to take aggressive action to get there. He asked if I would be
> interested in helping Zoom build up its security, privacy and
>
>
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