[liberationtech] Social media for social good in Taiwan

[Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes]

Yeah we all know the general picture and it is not good. Anywhere. 

(🤠Except perhaps in Iceland and even there surely there are faults and there  Exists at least ONE “particular social group’s” Rights are trampled upon.🤠)

Why not focus on the other aspect of this, that is, how little gestures, ant steps, could be amplified and eventually become giant leaps forward!?

Regards / Saludos / Grato

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:19 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> https://www.wired.co.uk/article/taiwan-democracy-social-media
>> 
>> Their answer to the government’s request was to create a new kind of
>> political process. They wanted to allow citizens to not only vote on
>> questions posed by the government, but also control what questions were
>> asked in the first place. And they wanted these questions to be
>> based on attitudes held in common across Taiwanese society
>> rather than on its divisions.
>> They called the process vTaiwan
> 
> "Votes on vTaiwan are aggregated to show clusters of consensus"
> "The outcomes of the vTaiwan have been put in front of Parliament,
> by government, to form the core of 11 pieces of laws and regulation"
> 
> So if there is "consensus" "majority" "vote" etc to murder you,
> or for you to do something or some act, to perform in some
> manner that the "consensus" wishes, to "conform", to live think
> believe or be "social" in some way, whatever that thing or performance
> or else may be, and where your choice to not do such does not
> impart harm upon another person... then you will ultimately face
> their increasing immoral sanction, their own "process" their "laws"
> which they have "enacted" over you without your signed consent,
> up to and including death for resisting such sanction... all for
> doing no harm to anyone.
> 
>> rather than on its divisions.
> 
> And what is a form of "division" but perhaps an independant means
> and position from which people may then begin to identify things
> in the "common" that should change, or may then perhaps even
> secede from, lest the common stamp out division thus artfully
> leaving any of its problems in place.
> 
> 
> Liberation and its tech, should "consensus" around achieving
> actual liberty in common with a non aggression principle,
> modelling such efforts into itself, instead of providing yet another
> newspeak and mechanism for such "parliamentary" towers
> of unequal centralized power as below to continue in perpetuity
> the exertion of immoral force upon harmless peoples who
> have done no harm.
> 
>> "Those digital democracy platforms don’t have any kind
>> of real authority,” says Taiwanese parliamentarian Karen Yu.
>> "“Legislators still have more power"
> 
> 
>> Social media has opened up vast social divisions and brought democracy to its knees.
>> Taiwan is making democracy work again.
> 
> Such falls, and hacking away at the same thing, time and
> permutation again, over thousands of years trying to get
> it to work, should tell you that it is fundamentally broken,
> and that you need to throw it out and try something completely
> different that has never been seriously, let alone casually,
> or even at all, tried before.
> 
>> the people are fighting back
> 
> The vast are fighting for something... maybe something
> they know inside (say... no force, no harm) but have difficulty
> articulating, or finding completely different models to form
> around, maybe because those models are excluded and
> book banned from schools "voted' curriculum, demonetized
> downranked and censored off YouTube and Facebook and
> Google, and generally suppressed by such towers above.
> 
> It's no wonder they're stuck with the same problems "again".
> 
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