<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yeah we all know the general picture and it is not good. Anywhere. <div><br><div>(🤠Except perhaps in Iceland and even there surely there are faults and there <font color="#222222" face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" size="3"><span style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">Exists at least ONE </span></font>“particular social group’s” Rights are trampled upon.🤠)</div><div><div><br></div><div>Why not focus on the other aspect of this, that is, how little gestures, ant steps, could be amplified and eventually become giant leaps forward!?<br><br><div dir="ltr">Regards / Saludos / Grato<div><br></div><div>Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 28, 2019, at 11:19 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite"><span>https://www.wired.co.uk/article/taiwan-democracy-social-media</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Their answer to the government’s request was to create a new kind of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>political process. They wanted to allow citizens to not only vote on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>questions posed by the government, but also control what questions were</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>asked in the first place. And they wanted these questions to be</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>based on attitudes held in common across Taiwanese society</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rather than on its divisions.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>They called the process vTaiwan</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>"Votes on vTaiwan are aggregated to show clusters of consensus"</span><br><span>"The outcomes of the vTaiwan have been put in front of Parliament,</span><br><span>by government, to form the core of 11 pieces of laws and regulation"</span><br><span></span><br><span>So if there is "consensus" "majority" "vote" etc to murder you,</span><br><span>or for you to do something or some act, to perform in some</span><br><span>manner that the "consensus" wishes, to "conform", to live think</span><br><span>believe or be "social" in some way, whatever that thing or performance</span><br><span>or else may be, and where your choice to not do such does not</span><br><span>impart harm upon another person... then you will ultimately face</span><br><span>their increasing immoral sanction, their own "process" their "laws"</span><br><span>which they have "enacted" over you without your signed consent,</span><br><span>up to and including death for resisting such sanction... all for</span><br><span>doing no harm to anyone.</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>rather than on its divisions.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>And what is a form of "division" but perhaps an independant means</span><br><span>and position from which people may then begin to identify things</span><br><span>in the "common" that should change, or may then perhaps even</span><br><span>secede from, lest the common stamp out division thus artfully</span><br><span>leaving any of its problems in place.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Liberation and its tech, should "consensus" around achieving</span><br><span>actual liberty in common with a non aggression principle,</span><br><span>modelling such efforts into itself, instead of providing yet another</span><br><span>newspeak and mechanism for such "parliamentary" towers</span><br><span>of unequal centralized power as below to continue in perpetuity</span><br><span>the exertion of immoral force upon harmless peoples who</span><br><span>have done no harm.</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>"Those digital democracy platforms don’t have any kind</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of real authority,” says Taiwanese parliamentarian Karen Yu.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"“Legislators still have more power"</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Social media has opened up vast social divisions and brought democracy to its knees.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Taiwan is making democracy work again.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Such falls, and hacking away at the same thing, time and</span><br><span>permutation again, over thousands of years trying to get</span><br><span>it to work, should tell you that it is fundamentally broken,</span><br><span>and that you need to throw it out and try something completely</span><br><span>different that has never been seriously, let alone casually,</span><br><span>or even at all, tried before.</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>the people are fighting back</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>The vast are fighting for something... maybe something</span><br><span>they know inside (say... no force, no harm) but have difficulty</span><br><span>articulating, or finding completely different models to form</span><br><span>around, maybe because those models are excluded and</span><br><span>book banned from schools "voted' curriculum, demonetized</span><br><span>downranked and censored off YouTube and Facebook and</span><br><span>Google, and generally suppressed by such towers above.</span><br><span></span><br><span>It's no wonder they're stuck with the same problems "again".</span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major commercial search engine. 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