[liberationtech] JOB: Director, Ethical Technology @Salesforce

[R. Jason Cronk]

I would agree that most outside ethics boards are nothing more than PR
window dressing and thus that sealed the fate of the Google one. That
being said, it appears that Axon's board recommended against facial
recognition and the company actually complied (for now).

https://www.axon.com/company/news/ai-ethics-board-report [1]

It's interesting that a weapons manufacturer, here, relented whereas
seemingly neutral "tech" companies seems to have a harder time. 

	Jason
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Subject:Re: [liberationtech] JOB: Director, Ethical Technology
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 ..on Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 09:16:23PM +0200, Yonatan Miller wrote:
 > As a ruby user I benefit a lot from Salesforce, but I wish Marc
Benioff
 > would listen to his employees and the public. A CRM for Customers
Border
 > Protection is still enabling DHS to do horrible things. More info
here, for
 > those who are not in the loop
 >
https://www.businessinsider.de/salesforce-employees-protest-work-customs-border-protection-agency-2018-6?r=US&IR=T

 We ought to start with a de-facto of distrust with all and any
corporations.
 We've no reason to do otherwise.

 This job placement is all too reminiscent of Google appointing an 'AI
Ethics
 Council' after they were caught working with the U.S DoD to write AI
to help
 drones kill people, AKA 'Project Maven'. Having experts/thinktanks in
ethics on
 the payroll presents an image of the given abuser taking it
seriously, able to
 allay public concerns with a performance of care. 

 Social engineering, little more.

 Cheers,

 Julian

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wrote:
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