[liberationtech] My Venezuela Post

[Sky (Jim Schuyler)]

There are any number of us who would be able to read a message in Spanish, so I'd urge you to go ahead and post both in your most comfortable language, plus translation because of the list's stated common language. I subscribe to some ES+EN lists and find this kind of practice to be very helpful. I wouldn't myself post (or answer you) in Spanish because of my limited capability, but I'd be happy to read what you have to say in its original language!

I certainly can understand how it might feel difficult to express subtleties in a second language — I have that problem myself.

—Sky

> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Cristina (99) <efecto99 at riseup.net <mailto:efecto99 at riseup.net>> wrote:
> 
> What i don't see as something friendly -and sorry about it- is to discuss this terrible moment in English.
> I know the list is in that language, but a lot of us are South Americans, living this from Latin America, and having to translate our opinions (even between us) to a foreign language. I feel it a bit weird, sorry again. 
> And this is sooo strong for us (as imply a key point to all the region) that it's very difficult to express it in English. At least It's one of the reasons I remain in silence.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Cristina (99)
> 
> On 27/1/19 17:24, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote:
>> I don’t think your post was “political editorializing” at all! And I’m a Venezuelan citizen that tries to keep out of the toxic political talk in and on Venezuela. Life is NOT politics, and history and facts transcend ideologies, often used to mask or justify untenable and immoral social realities maintained by governments and other power brokers.
>> 
>> Regards / Saludos / Grato
>> 
>> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com <mailto:ycompanys at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It has been brought to my attention that some of you felt that my email on Reymar Perdomo was excessive editorializing on behalf of Liberation Technology in favor of a political group against others.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to apologize to all of those who saw my email in that light, though in hindsight I understand how my email could be misconstrued in that way. But I was only trying to make two points:
>>> First, that we forget that music can sometimes serve as a Liberation Technology; and,
>>> Second, that the plight of migrants and refugees is an issue of concern for Liberation Technology.
>>> In this context, I'd like to reiterate Liberation Technology's bias. We used to state our bias all the time on Twitter but not so much on the list.
>>> 
>>> Liberation Technology's bias has long been that we believe in rights-based pragmatism, that is, we believe in supporting the use of technology (anthropologically defined) to foster public goods that protect or advance the rights enshrined in the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights at http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/ <http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/>.
>>> 
>>> Should you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to share them with me privately or with the group publicly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yosem
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