[liberationtech] The Invention of "Ethical AI"

[R R Brooks]

Opting out is likely to add additionally biases into the data, since I imagine
underrepresented groups being more likely to opt out. Lack of representation 
is already leading to blacks and women getting substandard medical care in USA.

Consider the ethical dimensions that adds.



On December 27, 2019 6:36:22 AM EST, carlo von lynX <lynX at time.to.get.psyced.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 03:13:27PM -0600, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco
>Sanfuentes wrote:
>> Anonymity doesn’t protect “Particular Social Groups” and aggregate
>anonymous data analysis and mining is the basis for discrimination of
>entire segments of the population! Like zip code discrimination. Food
>deserts. Etc.
>
>True, so the total unavailability of private and personal data for
>centralized analysis wouldn't even be enough as we still have to
>work through the dangers of public data. But radical privacy sounds
>to me like the most important starting point.
>
>On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:05 PM John Young <jya at pipeline.com> wrote:
>> "Ethical" is a marketing, manipulative term, applied to exploitive, 
>> deceptive initiatives.
>
>I can very well imagine that the marketing individuals introducing
>the word into their corporate discourse may all be well-intentioned.
>The problem happens beyond their immediate understanding as corporate
>structures acting within the capitalist framework cannot effectively
>act ethically unless all of their costumers are extremily aware,
>caring and able to check the effective application of ethical values -
>and putting such values before their own individual interest.
>
>In the era of individualism this just isn't happening, therefore any
>company trying to make things ethical will fall into competitive
>disadvantage against those who don't.
>
>So even if there is a genuine attempt of a company leadership to go
>ethical, it must be stopped ASAP to stop losing market share. So the
>leadership will be replaced if it doesn't stop the ethical madness
>on time.
>
>In the capitalist system, the only ethical force lies in legislation,
>government and jurisdiction. The market is structurally unable to
>ever act ethically by itself.
>
>
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