[liberationtech] Google keeps the chat history even you enabled the OTR

[Alexandros Papadopoulos]

On 08/05/14 14:14, Ximin Luo wrote:
> On 08/05/14 14:05, Nariman Gharib wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Just I want to remind you, Gmail is keeping your chat history even
>> you enable the OTR on your gmail chat.
>> 
>> how? if you going to plus.google.com <http://plus.google.com> and
>> on the top right side of the page you click on the Hangout, and
>> then select a person who you talked to him recently, you can see
>> your all chat history is come up! you can delete manually your chat
>> history from there too, but too sides should do the same things. I
>> don't know after these things Google will keep our chat history or
>> not!!! but I think this is a bug in Gmail service.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Nariman
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
> Confusingly, Google Talk's "off the record" option has NO relation to
> the end-to-end encrypted OTR that we know about. I am surprised that
> the chat history is still visible to users, though.
> 
> To use OTR with Google Talk, you need to use a 3rd-party program like
> the ones mentioned on http://otr.cypherpunks.ca/

What Ximin said. Google's "Off the record" is misleading. You need to
use additional software to protect your chats BEFORE Google gets your words.

Slide #3 of https://apapadop.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/otr1.pdf
reinforces this message.

Full tutorial on how to stop Google recording your chats:
https://apapadop.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/stop-google-recording-your-chats/

(a bit dusty, but should still work)

-A