[liberationtech] 13 years in the making...
Dan Staples
danstaples at opentechinstitute.org
Thu Jan 2 19:03:28 PST 2014
That's a very good point, we definitely do need to be more accurate and
consistent in our external messaging, especially around the safety
afforded by the software. We include a warning box on our downloads
pages (e.g. [1]) in order to educate users before they deploy it, but
perhaps we can make it more prominent as you suggest.
Thanks for the feedback, we definitely take it very seriously.
Dan
[1] https://commotionwireless.net/download/routers
On 01/02/2014 09:41 PM, S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> Thanks Dan for sharing the warning label on your downloads pages,
> describing what
> Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety. However, it is very
> different than what has quoted the media from Suscha as promises on his
> interviews like below:
>
> http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f7_sascha_meinrath_answers_to_your_questions_over_internet_in_suitcase/24288845.html
>
> It has quoted that:
> وی اضافه میکند که این سیستم به گونهای در حال طراحی است که امنیت
> حداکثری و ناشناخته شدن حداکثری کاربران را در پی داشته باشد.
> He adds that this system is designed in such a way that users can get
> maximum security and anonymity
>
>
> Anyhow, since the warning label is in internal pages and doesn't grab
> user's attention I suggest you to mention it on another interview with
> the same media and in the main page of project website inside a box to
> decrease its risk for users in the countries like Iran, Syria, Sudan,
> Cuba, North Korea, etc. because we are responsible about their security.
>
>
>
>
> On 2 January 2014 12:14, Dan Staples <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org
> <mailto:danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>> wrote:
>
> 'Safe' is a word that is thrown around a lot when it comes to
> technology, and it really should be qualified; on its own it means very
> little. We have a warning label on our downloads pages, describing what
> Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety, which I would suggest
> taking a look at:
> https://commotionwireless.net/understanding-commotions-warning-label. On
> that page are some suggestions for other tools you can use, depending on
> your needs.
>
> However keep in mind that digital safety is never absolute and requires
> much more than using the right tools; it requires an understanding of
> the situation, the risks involved, *how* to use the tools your have, and
> a lot more...
>
> As pointed out before, wireless is inherently a broadcast medium, which
> makes transmitting devices locatable to some degree. Anonymity is really
> difficult, and is not something Commotion provides.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 01/02/2014 10:32 AM, S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> > So, how the commotion can be a safe tool for the users in
> authoritarian
> > states like Iran?Because, the government has become very sensitive on
> > this project when Sacha announced it ,called: Internet in a Suitcase,
> > then the Cyber Army in Iran can triangulate and arrest the user.
> >
> > Is there any way or tool to anonomize and hide the location?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Petter Ericson wrote:
> >
> > Wireless communication is inherently about transmitting and
> > receiving radio
> > waves, and triangulating any omnidirectional radiation source is
> > relatively
> > easy. So the answer is "yes, assuming they have agents in
> close enough
> > proximity and using the correct tools".
> >
> > A big thanks to the Commotion team, your work has been very
> useful to me
> > personally in making localised meshes in my neighbourhood.
> >
> > Happy new year
> >
> > /P
> >
> > On 02 January, 2014 - S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Sascha,
> > >
> > > Happy new year too.
> > > Thanks for informing us.
> > >
> > > Before sending to the Iranian users I want to make sure
> about its
> > > security. You mentioned Commotion V1.0 is safe. *Can Iranian
> > government
> > > find the location of users by triangulating it or so?*
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Aliakbar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 31 December 2013 15:02, Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org
> <mailto:sascha at ucimc.org>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Commotion v1.0 is out! Helping spread safe, secure,
> ubiquitous
> > wireless
> > > > connectivity for all: http://www.newamerica.org/node/99668
> > > >
> > > > We've come such a helluva long way from our humble Y2K
> > beginnings of a
> > > > group of
> > > > hackers meeting up in my living room... But, as Samuel Johnson
> > once said,
> > > > "Great
> > > > works are performed not by strength but by perseverance" (that
> > and an
> > > > incredibly
> > > > talented and dedicated team ;).
> > > >
> > > > Now we just need to spread the word to all our Internet
> > Freedom-loving
> > > > peeps.
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year!!!
> > > >
> > > > --Sascha
> > > >
> > > >
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