[liberationtech] 13 years in the making...

[S.Aliakbar Mousavi]

Thanks Dan for sharing the warning label on your downloads pages,
describing what
Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety. However, it is very different
than what has quoted the media from Suscha as promises on his interviews
like below:

http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f7_sascha_meinrath_answers_to_your_questions_over_internet_in_suitcase/24288845.html

It has quoted that:
وی اضافه می‌کند که این سیستم به گونه‌ای در حال طراحی است که امنیت حداکثری و
ناشناخته شدن حداکثری کاربران را در پی داشته باشد.
He adds that this system is designed in such a way that users can get
maximum security and anonymity


Anyhow, since the warning label is in internal pages and doesn't grab
user's attention I suggest you to mention it on another interview with the
same media and in the main page of project website inside a box to decrease
its risk for users in the countries like Iran, Syria, Sudan, Cuba, North
Korea, etc. because we are responsible about their security.




On 2 January 2014 12:14, Dan Staples <danstaples at opentechinstitute.org>wrote:

> 'Safe' is a word that is thrown around a lot when it comes to
> technology, and it really should be qualified; on its own it means very
> little. We have a warning label on our downloads pages, describing what
> Commotion cannot provide in terms of safety, which I would suggest
> taking a look at:
> https://commotionwireless.net/understanding-commotions-warning-label. On
> that page are some suggestions for other tools you can use, depending on
> your needs.
>
> However keep in mind that digital safety is never absolute and requires
> much more than using the right tools; it requires an understanding of
> the situation, the risks involved, *how* to use the tools your have, and
> a lot more...
>
> As pointed out before, wireless is inherently a broadcast medium, which
> makes transmitting devices locatable to some degree. Anonymity is really
> difficult, and is not something Commotion provides.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 01/02/2014 10:32 AM, S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> > So, how the commotion can be a safe tool for the users in authoritarian
> > states like Iran?Because, the government has become very sensitive on
> > this project when Sacha announced it ,called: Internet in a Suitcase,
> > then the Cyber Army in Iran can triangulate and arrest the user.
> >
> > Is there any way or tool to anonomize and hide the location?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 2 January 2014, Petter Ericson wrote:
> >
> >     Wireless communication is inherently about transmitting and
> >     receiving radio
> >     waves, and triangulating any omnidirectional radiation source is
> >     relatively
> >     easy. So the answer is "yes, assuming they have agents in close
> enough
> >     proximity and using the correct tools".
> >
> >     A big thanks to the Commotion team, your work has been very useful
> to me
> >     personally in making localised meshes in my neighbourhood.
> >
> >     Happy new year
> >
> >     /P
> >
> >     On 02 January, 2014 - S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> >
> >     > Dear Sascha,
> >     >
> >     > Happy new year too.
> >     > Thanks for informing us.
> >     >
> >     > Before sending to the Iranian users I want to make sure about its
> >     > security. You mentioned Commotion V1.0 is safe. *Can Iranian
> >     government
> >     > find the location of users by triangulating it or so?*
> >     >
> >     > Best,
> >     > Aliakbar
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On 31 December 2013 15:02, Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org
> >     <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > Hi all,
> >     > >
> >     > > Commotion v1.0 is out!  Helping spread safe, secure, ubiquitous
> >     wireless
> >     > > connectivity for all:  http://www.newamerica.org/node/99668
> >     > >
> >     > > We've come such a helluva long way from our humble Y2K
> >     beginnings of a
> >     > > group of
> >     > > hackers meeting up in my living room... But, as Samuel Johnson
> >     once said,
> >     > > "Great
> >     > > works are performed not by strength but by perseverance" (that
> >     and an
> >     > > incredibly
> >     > > talented and dedicated team ;).
> >     > >
> >     > > Now we just need to spread the word to all our Internet
> >     Freedom-loving
> >     > > peeps.
> >     > >
> >     > > Happy New Year!!!
> >     > >
> >     > > --Sascha
> >     > >
> >     > >
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            S.Aliakbar Mousavi
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