[liberationtech] 13 years in the making...

Richard Brooks rrb at acm.org
Thu Jan 2 07:20:03 PST 2014


My understanding is that, in urban environments, it is very difficult to
identify the exact location of wireless signals. There is a pirate
low-power FM station in DC within blocks of the FCC. It has been
broadcasting for years, no one has been able to find it. This is due to
multi-path fading of the signals. You could localize it within a certain
region, but the exact position is hard to find.

This is from talking to people active in this space. It would be
important to hide the antennas.

Not sure how this is with 802.11 and such. They were using FM.

On 01/02/2014 09:16 AM, Petter Ericson wrote:
> Wireless communication is inherently about transmitting and receiving radio
> waves, and triangulating any omnidirectional radiation source is relatively
> easy. So the answer is "yes, assuming they have agents in close enough
> proximity and using the correct tools".
> 
> A big thanks to the Commotion team, your work has been very useful to me
> personally in making localised meshes in my neighbourhood.
> 
> Happy new year
> 
> /P
> 
> On 02 January, 2014 - S.Aliakbar Mousavi wrote:
> 
>> Dear Sascha,
>>
>> Happy new year too.
>> Thanks for informing us.
>>
>> Before sending to the Iranian users I want to make sure about its
>> security. You mentioned Commotion V1.0 is safe. *Can Iranian government
>> find the location of users by triangulating it or so?*
>>
>> Best,
>> Aliakbar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 December 2013 15:02, Sascha Meinrath <sascha at ucimc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Commotion v1.0 is out!  Helping spread safe, secure, ubiquitous wireless
>>> connectivity for all:  http://www.newamerica.org/node/99668
>>>
>>> We've come such a helluva long way from our humble Y2K beginnings of a
>>> group of
>>> hackers meeting up in my living room... But, as Samuel Johnson once said,
>>> "Great
>>> works are performed not by strength but by perseverance" (that and an
>>> incredibly
>>> talented and dedicated team ;).
>>>
>>> Now we just need to spread the word to all our Internet Freedom-loving
>>> peeps.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year!!!
>>>
>>> --Sascha
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>>             S.Aliakbar Mousavi
> 
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