[liberationtech] RiseUp

[Alfredo Lopez]

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Besides being wrong, this is truly offensive. Rise-Up is a remarkable
collective with outstanding service and enormous commitment to
principle. More than a decade of that kind of service to the
progressive movement in this country. I have no problem saying that we
at MF/PL are proud to work with them and many other people in this
country are as well. They stand up. They believe in data protection
and they make sure data is protected. Their systems run consistently
and reliably.

I know this for a fact. You don't know anything about them!

You have a political disagreement with left-wing politics. That's
fine. But to insult, denigrate and make fun of people's beliefs --
that's not fine at all! And to speculate that, because someone
believes the society is unjust and should be changed, they would allow
incompetent people to work with their system!!! That would mean that
no organization with a belief in anything could be trusted.

Alfredo

> 
> Second, the unusual stress of ideology in such a service is very 
> relevant to product's security in this case. When I read RiseUp's 
> social contract page [1] some time ago, I found the mild
> creepiness and passive-aggressiveness quite amusing, but
> immediately thought the following: these guys seem pretty
> radicalized in whatever hippie ideology they seem to be adepts of.
> This probably indicates that in their closed group, they value
> ideological loyalty at least as highly as technical expertise. It
> means that one of them could be incompetent and still have
> administrative access to security-critical systems, or that one of
> them could be recruited at some point under a suitable ideological
> pretense — compromising the service in either case.
> 
> [1] https://www.riseup.net/en/social-contract
> 


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Alfredo López

Co-Chair, Leadership Committee
May First/People Link
https://mayfirst.org

My Column on:
http://thiscantbehappening.net

My Blog
http://www.alfredolopez.org
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