[liberationtech] Fwd: Avaaz in "grave danger" due to GMail spam filters

Rich Kulawiec rsk at gsp.org
Mon Aug 19 15:27:18 PDT 2013


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:32:59AM +0200, Moritz Bartl wrote:
> Subject: Avaaz in "grave danger" due to GMail spam filters

This should be retitled "Avaaz allegedly in grave danger due to their
own extremely stupid decisions as regards running their mailing list,
and oh, by the way, Gmail's anti-spam setup is awful."

Briefly (VERY briefly) if Avaaz ran their mailing lists properly
(in-house, using COI, RFC 2142-compliant, RFC 2919-compliant, and so on)
then it would be very unlikely that they'd have an issue with Gmail...or
any other large mail provider, for that matter.  (Source: decades of
experience running mailing lists.)  As to Gmail, both their false positive
and false negative rates are far too high *and* they use quarantines
(a worst practice in mail system engineering).  So there's plenty of
blame to go around here, but really, most of it lies with Avaaz, because
this problem is fixable IN A DAY using FOSS and a little bit of clue.

---rsk



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