[liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

[adrelanos]

Kyle Maxwell:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM,  <liberationtech at lewman.us> wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:46:10 +0200
>> Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Repeat after me: Iceland is *not* a data haven.
>>
>> [citation needed]
> 
> Shouldn't it be the other way around? If somebody claims that a
> nation-state possesses specific properties that distinguish it from
> others, shouldn't the burden of proof lie on the person making such a
> claim?

Interesting question.

The one who claims a state to be a data heaven could use the absence of
negative events/press against free speech as argument for a data heaven
or point to laws which grant freedom of speech.

On the other hand one claiming a state is not a data heaven, could point
to negative events/press to support that argument.