[liberationtech] Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down

[Kyle Maxwell]

You'd have some pretty significant logistical hurdles: commercial
launch capability is improving but not where you want it to be,
probably, not to mention significant problems with equipment
maintenance. Dollars per gigabyte change rapidly when you're talking
about rad-hardened systems that you can't just ship via FedEx or
what-have-you.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Richard Graves
<richardb.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone taken a run at would it take to have a independent, space based
> data haven?
>
> -Richard
>
> ---
> Richard Graves
> t: 202-372-6756
> t: @RichardGraves
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Moritz Bartl <moritz at torservers.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 09.08.2013 18:34, frank at journalistsecurity.net wrote:
>> > This suggests that we need a firm based perhaps in Iceland to offer
>> > encryption services to have any chance of being secure.
>>
>> Please, I don't want to read this myth at least on libtech any more.
>> Repeat after me: Iceland is *not* a data haven.
>>
>> If a service depends on you having to trust the operator, it cannot be
>> "secure" in any meaningful sense.
>>
>> --
>> Moritz Bartl
>> https://www.torservers.net/
>> --
>> Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google.
>> Persistent violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe,
>> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at
>> companys at stanford.edu or changing your settings at
>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>
>
>
> --
> Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google.
> Persistent violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe,
> change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at
> companys at stanford.edu or changing your settings at
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech



-- 
@kylemaxwell