[liberationtech] And right on cue, the flush our civil liberties down the toilet boys rear their ugly heads

[Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes]

They (FBI, DHS) did call them "persons of interest" - nbd, it's all the same
On Apr 19, 2013 4:27 PM, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <
alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jacob, it's all that and worse, I'm sure. Why wouldn't be any different?
>
> After all, there has been a terrorist attack in Boston, so one would
> expect the state of the art in counter-terrorism in full force here!
> On Apr 19, 2013 2:58 PM, "Jacob Appelbaum" <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
>
>> Shava Nerad:
>> > I was fascinated today to see Mother Jones and many others reposting,
>> > entirely without reflection or comment, what seemed to me to be not
>> > "crowdsourced" images but second story surveillance camera shots of the
>> FBI
>> > suspects.  (Who, in addition, are being howled after as guilty until
>> proven
>> > innocent in this digital manhunt - and thank God the NYPost "exonerated"
>> > their suspects before that turned into something ugly...)
>> >
>> > Well, yes, the FBI is doing their job with the tools available, and as I
>> > live in metro Boston I would most healthily STFU...  But if this
>> incident
>> > had happened in London, I can't help but think MJ et al might have
>> engaged
>> > a moment of reflection and spine in the middle of that process, perhaps?
>>
>> I find it telling that the local news papers in Seattle referred to
>> their photos as 'potential suspects' on the front page. The use of
>> language is telling - it suggests that to be suspect is to be guilty. I
>> wouldn't be surprised if we saw people using the word potential as a
>> subtle replacement for suspect in the near future again and again.
>>
>> I also find it striking that it looks like de facto martial law has been
>> imposed on parts of Boston:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/gallery/boston-area-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
>>
>> Who are all the players in this by the way? The SWAT team in those
>> photos looks like a full blown military unit; the vehicles look like
>> APC/mini-tanks. The bomb robots look like iRobot produced machines.
>>
>> I haven't seen any of the radio equipment up close but I'd bet that
>> they're pulling out all the stops. I wonder if they'll publish the raw
>> logs from the Boston ShotSpotter system? I know they have it deployed
>> but I'm not sure if it extended to MIT's campus.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jacob
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