[liberationtech] issilentcircleopensourceyet.com

[Yosem Companys]

Security audits are always important, especially when people's lives are at
risk.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:

> Hi Ali,
> There is no "agenda," and there needn't be one if you are to critique
> security software. No need to be so aggressive.
> My qualms against Silent Circle are detailed here:
> http://log.nadim.cc/?p=89
>
>
> NK
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali at packetknife.com>wrote:
>
>> Seriously - what's your agenda?
>>
>> Where are the domains for the other tens of providers who charge arms and
>> legs based on closed protocols even?
>>
>> What's the nit with Silent Circle specifically? Because they're
>> accessible? Because it's easier to use? Because the founders have good
>> track records of standing up to Government too?
>>
>> Being absolutist about everything isn't helping anyone who ~needs~ it -
>> it's a privilege of the "haves" that we can have these conversations over
>> and over again.
>>
>> Shouldn't we have taken the "fight" to carriers, Apple iOS T&Cs, etc.
>> harder and longer ago? And why do we keep expecting private entities to
>> fight our Government battles for us? It's a losing proposition and
>> increases the costs-per-individual to untenable levels when we mix
>> absolutely all their enterprise with civil liberty issues.
>>
>> There has got to be a better way than this ridiculous trolling and
>> bickering. Someone? Anyone?
>>
>> Again, seriously, what's the agenda against Silent Circle specifically?
>>
>> -Ali
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:
>>
>>> http://issilentcircleopensourceyet.com/
>>>
>>> NK
>>>
>>> --
>>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:
>>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:
>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>>
>
>
> --
> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.stanford.edu/pipermail/liberationtech/attachments/20121106/5890bbb4/attachment.html>