[liberationtech] issilentcircleopensourceyet.com

[Nadim Kobeissi]

Hi Ali,
There is no "agenda," and there needn't be one if you are to critique
security software. No need to be so aggressive.
My qualms against Silent Circle are detailed here: http://log.nadim.cc/?p=89


NK


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie <ali at packetknife.com>wrote:

> Seriously - what's your agenda?
>
> Where are the domains for the other tens of providers who charge arms and
> legs based on closed protocols even?
>
> What's the nit with Silent Circle specifically? Because they're
> accessible? Because it's easier to use? Because the founders have good
> track records of standing up to Government too?
>
> Being absolutist about everything isn't helping anyone who ~needs~ it -
> it's a privilege of the "haves" that we can have these conversations over
> and over again.
>
> Shouldn't we have taken the "fight" to carriers, Apple iOS T&Cs, etc.
> harder and longer ago? And why do we keep expecting private entities to
> fight our Government battles for us? It's a losing proposition and
> increases the costs-per-individual to untenable levels when we mix
> absolutely all their enterprise with civil liberty issues.
>
> There has got to be a better way than this ridiculous trolling and
> bickering. Someone? Anyone?
>
> Again, seriously, what's the agenda against Silent Circle specifically?
>
> -Ali
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:
>
>> http://issilentcircleopensourceyet.com/
>>
>> NK
>>
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