[liberationtech] New microchip for smartphones to provide unprecedented ultra-precise location data

Sat Apr 14 08:28:10 PDT 2012

Exactly Paul!

On 4/14/12 11:16 AM, Paul Bernal (LAW) wrote:
> I certainly don't say don't develop it - just that we need to be HUGELY careful about how it's set up. Not just providing users with an 'on-off' switch and ensuring the default is 'off', but designing it in such a way that user choices can't be overridden (e.g. when the 'authorities' want to override), alerting people to the fact that it's in action at all times, automatically turning it off if nothing 'needs' it and so forth.
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> 'Civic hygiene' means thinking things through properly before bringing them in, and giving the benefit of any doubt to privacy, rather than the other way around.
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> Paul
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> On 14 Apr 2012, at 16:08, "Yishay Mor"<yishaym at gmail.com<mailto:yishaym at gmail.com>>  wrote:
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> Take that logic to its extreme, and we should abolish all digital cameras, and all wireless technology, because they can be misused.
> There's a clear line between technology that is developed specifically and intentionally for oppressive purposes and technology which is developed for a variety of purposes, but poses potential risks. The first should be fought, the second should be monitored.
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> In the case of advanced location technology, we might, for example, demand that mobile OS developers install a settings switch which allows the user to disable this functionality, or see which applications are using it. Any smartphone I've ever owned had a switch for GPS, purely for power saving purpose.
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> On 14 April 2012 13:36, Fran Parker<lilbambi at gmail.com<mailto:lilbambi at gmail.com>>  wrote:
> So true Paul!
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> "It's bad civic hygiene to build technologies that could someday be used to facilitate a police state. No matter what the eavesdroppers say, these systems cost too much and put us all at greater risk."
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/09/wiretapping_the.html
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> Sadly we have seen too many things created over time that they claimed were just used for bad things; but could have been used for bad or good. And that's true of this as well.
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> It's true of way too much these days ... way too many things could be used for good or bad and are getting used to control, categorize, snoop, wiretap, for security theater, threaten,  and often with way less oversight than should be the case.
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> I can't help being thankful that tyrannical government leaders like the obvious, Hitler, didn't have the technology we have today! Look what he did with IBM punchcard systems!
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> On 4/14/12 3:25 AM, Paul Bernal (LAW) wrote:
> True, but Schneier's 'bad civil hygiene' quote comes immediately to mind. The risks here are immense. The current Mexican issue is very much a cautionary tale...
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 14 Apr 2012, at 08:21, "Yishay Mor"<Yishay.Mor at open.ac.uk<mailto:Yishay.Mor at open.ac.uk><mailto:Yishay.Mor at open.ac.uk<mailto:Yishay.Mor at open.ac.uk>>>   wrote:
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> Maybe obvious, but the technology itself is neither good or evil. Its what you do with it. I can think of a variety of wonderful applications for this technology. Starting from locating people in a situation of crisis to location-based games and educational experiences ("to your left, you can see.."). The issue is that people need to (a) be aware of the privacy implications an (b) have control over when their location data is collected and who can see it.
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> On 12 April 2012 19:07, Katrin Verclas<katrin at mobileactive.org<mailto:katrin at mobileactive.org><mailto:katrin at mobileactive.org<mailto:katrin at mobileactive.org>>>   wrote:
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> Welcome to the new world ultra-precise location tracking on your phone...
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> http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/new-microchip-for-smartphones-to.html
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> Excerpt:
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>
> 'The Broadcom Corporation, a Fortune 500 company, recently
> unveiled a brand new microchip for smartphones which will provide
> ultra-precise location details, potentially even within a few
> centimeters, far beyond what current smartphones can detect.
>
> Today cell phones, but smartphones in particular, have become one of
> the most powerful surveillance tools available with Carrier IQ,
> citizen spying applications distributed by both the private sector
> and government agencies, techniques to encourage citizen spying, and
> a total lack of privacy.
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> The new chip, called Broadcom 4752 or BCM4752, will relay
> information about the vertical and horizontal position, if the
> individual is indoors or out, all through combining a wide variety
> of information sources.
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> Katrin Verclas
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