[liberationtech] Not another Haystack right?

[Michael Rogers]

Hi Jillian,

Thanks for raising this point. Do you know whether US export controls
prevent a third party in a third country from redistributing Java
(subject to copyright restrictions) to users in Syria?

Cheers,
Michael

On 29/11/11 14:53, Jillian C. York wrote:
> I'd also remember that Syrians (and perhaps others) are barred by US
> export controls from downloading Java.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Michael Rogers <m-- at gmx.com
> <mailto:m-- at gmx.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Good call, I'll make sure we show a warning at startup if the JVM's out
>     of date.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Michael
> 
>     On 29/11/11 14:37, Fran Parker wrote:
>     > Hi Michael,
>     >
>     > Then maybe you could recommend that people upgrade their Java to the
>     > latest stable version if they plan to use the product before it
>     goes to
>     > C or C++ version?
>     >
>     > I wouldn't dream of running any Java based program without using the
>     > latest stable (presumably safer) version. I have seen many folks still
>     > running *cringe* version Update 5.x!
>     >
>     > Especially when you are talking about people's lives...
>     >
>     > Maybe something to think about anyway...
>     >
>     > Fran
>     >
>     > On 11/29/11 9:31 AM, Michael Rogers wrote:
>     >> Hi Fran,
>     >>
>     >> Thanks for the feedback.
>     >>
>     >> The plan is to bundle a JVM for Windows, where Java isn't
>     available by
>     >> default, and rely on the default JVM for Mac and Android.
>     >>
>     >> New JVMs are supposed to be backward compatible with old
>     applications,
>     >> so our code should run on any JVM that supports Java 1.5 or later.
>     >>
>     >> We've also discussed porting the code to C or C++, but that won't
>     happen
>     >> until the design stabilises.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers,
>     >> Michael
>     >>
>     >> On 29/11/11 14:06, Fran Parker wrote:
>     >>> Interesting. My only concern is that it's built on Java which
>     has many
>     >>> vulnerabilities if a person is using an older version. And newer
>     >>> versions can break the program entirely. Or am I missing something?
>     >>>
>     >>> Fran
>     >>>
>     >>> On 11/29/11 7:41 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>     >>>> Briar Project aims to create a secure news&   discussion system for
>     >>>> people in authoritarian societies http://t.co/cZtLzF7B
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