[liberationtech] Free and Fair Elections in Egypt

[Sheila Parks]

How  very awful

Of course, the governments in any country have a lot at stake

With the e-voting machines they can talk about free and fair 
elections, as the president et al do here in the US, and then rig then

It is beyond me how the people allow it and don't get it, as here in the US

Of course, here, the corporate media never publish anything about the 
fraud and error of the e-voting machines.

Sheila

At 07:08 PM 2/13/2011, James S. Tyre wrote:
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>I've no idea what might be proposed for Egypt.  I do know, however, 
>that importing Indian EVMs (and all their problems) is being 
>considered by Pakistan, Nepal and Russia.
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>From: liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu 
>[mailto:liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of 
>Rebecca MacKinnon
>Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 1:25 PM
>To: Steve Weis
>Cc: M[P
>Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Free and Fair Elections in Egypt
>
>Important points.
>
>Still, it's not a bad idea for people trying to put together free 
>and fair elections for the first time to be mindful - along with all 
>of those core prerequisites you mention - of the problems emerging 
>around the world with electronic voting machines.
>
>See for example this "Security Analysis of India's Electronic Voting 
>Machines" by a multi-national team of computer scientists:
><http://www.cse.umich.edu/~jhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf>http://www.cse.umich.edu/~jhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf
>
>In the event (which may be unlikely) that the use of electronic 
>voting machines is seriously proposed or considered in Egypt, these 
>problems are certainly an excellent reason to stick with paper ballots.
>
>
>On Feb 13, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Steve Weis wrote:
>
>
>Egypt used hand-counted paper ballots in 2010 [1]. That didn't 
>prevent voter intimidation or ballot stuffing, like what's 
>apparently shown in this video: 
><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HBUKkXyIc>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4HBUKkXyIc
>
>The specific mechanism of how the votes are cast is largely 
>irrelevant without vote enfranchisement, safe voting locations, 
>media freedoms, electoral oversight, and the ability to audit the 
>results. Focusing on whether someone votes with a pen and paper, or 
>a touchscreen is missing the bigger picture.
>
>[1] - "Furor Grows Over Egypt's Election Results", 
><http://www.npr.org/2010/11/30/131704396/calls-grow-to-set-aside-egypt-s-election-results>http://www.npr.org/2010/11/30/131704396/calls-grow-to-set-aside-egypt-s-election-results
>
>On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Sheila Parks 
><<mailto:sheilaruthparks at comcast.net>sheilaruthparks at comcast.net> wrote:
>My blood runs cold every time I hear that, wondering if, no WHEN the 
>US privatized, riggable electronic voting machine industry will try 
>to sell their poisons to Egypt.
>
>The youth and geeks who organized and those millions of leaders who 
>took part in Revolution know better than that, I tell myself
>
>I would really appreciate comments from you who are involved in 
>democracy and technology.
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Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
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