[liberationtech] Egyptian government to introduce e-voting system

Wed Apr 6 16:07:47 PDT 2011

Thx so much, again

At 07:00 PM 4/6/2011, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
>BTW, the paper is dated July 29, 2010.  That's the latest version 
>available on http://indiaevm.org/paper.html as well.  (Although one 
>is 14 pages and the other is 25 pages, the only difference seems to 
>be in formatting).
>
>- Pranesh
>
>On Thursday 07 April 2011 04:26 AM, Pranesh Prakash wrote:
>>Dear Sheila,
>>It's a public paper, and it was recently discussed in passing on this
>>very list. I also think the conclusion is a bit disingenuous when it
>>suggests that paper ballots might actually be better suited to a
>>developing country with a large population (while I agree that a paper
>>audit trail would improve the system).
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Pranesh
>>
>>On Thursday 07 April 2011 04:22 AM, Sheila Parks wrote:
>>>Is this paper from Haldermann a published paper? And can I repost it
>>>also, or is it just you, Rebecca that has permission?
>>>
>>>Also, I cannot find a date on it? Am I not seeing it? Do you know the
>>>date?
>>>
>>>Thx so much
>>>
>>>Sheila
>>>
>>>At 05:24 PM 4/6/2011, Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
>>>>Alex Halderman from UMich/Princeton CITP has this to say about that
>>>>report (shared with his permission):
>>>>
>>>>"It was recently reported that Egyptian officials have been reaching
>>>>out to India's election commission for guidance:
>>>><http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-05/india/29383962_1_iidem-s-y-quraishi-evms>http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-05/india/29383962_1_iidem-s-y-quraishi-evms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wonder whether they'll adopt similar technology. If they were to
>>>>deploy the same kind of machines that India uses, my chief concern
>>>>would be their vulnerability to centralized insider fraud.
>>>>
>>>>(See my India EVM paper:
>>>><http://www.cse.umich.edu/%7Ejhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf>http://www.cse.umich.edu/~jhalderm/pub/papers/evm-ccs10.pdf
>>>>
>>>>)"
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>Rebecca
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, David Jandura
>>>><<mailto:djandura at ifes.org>djandura at ifes.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From <http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/389398>Al-Masry Al Youm:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Egyptian government is preparing to introduce an electronic voting
>>>>system for the upcoming parliamentary elections scheduled for
>>>>September. Refaat Qemsan, head of the Interior Ministry's elections
>>>>department, said the system will allow eligible citizens to vote by
>>>>submitting their national identity card data online.
>>>>
>>>>At a forum held Tuesday in Cairo, Qemsan said current election laws
>>>>only concern Egyptians residing in Egypt, adding that most expatriate
>>>>Egyptians do not have Egyptian IDs. Qemsan called for including
>>>>expatriate Egyptians in any new voting system. Maged Othman, minister
>>>>of communications and information technology, said the country is
>>>>ready to introduce an electronic system of voting in time for the
>>>>parliamentary and presidential elections. However, observers believe
>>>>Egyptian elections laws stand in the way of implementing such a system
>>>>because they refer to paper voter lists and ballot boxes. Egyptian
>>>>political parties and movements have said they would like the
>>>>electronic system to first be piloted in club and syndicate elections
>>>>before being implemented in national elections.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>E-voting can mean both automated machines or internet voting so I'm
>>>>not sure what they are proposing here. The expatriate aspect leads me
>>>>to believe they mean internet voting, as unbelievable as that sounds.
>>>>Has anybody heard any information on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>Pranesh Prakash
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