[liberationtech] how do I tell these Chinese people "You're doing it wrong!" ?

Isaac Mao isaac.mao at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 21:38:02 PDT 2010


I joined the list already.

The team, let's call them FutureX, very secretly behaved but harassed a lot
of twitter users a period ago by providing twitter-bot to follow and spam
those active users in China. Twitter banned it finally after reporting.  But
nobody can tell it's intention.

In this case, they did try to convince their followers them a secure way to
chat in China context, I believe it's not a big usage but just like a
learning experiment.



On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rebecca MacKinnon <
rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Better than just translating, you should talk to people like Isaac Mao who
> can spread the word around to the right communities within China.
> Copying him on this thread. Isaac I recommend you join this list.
> Best,
> Rebecca
>
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Robert Guerra wrote:
>
> Rebecca MacKinnon, who's on this list could likely be of help as she's
> fluent in Mandarin.
>
> regards
>
> Robert
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Frank Corrigan <email at franciscorrigan.com>wrote:
>
>> You might want to ask one of the organisations listed at:
>> http://www.internetfreedom.org/about whether they would help produce a
>> notice in Chinese.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: "Zooko O'Whielacronx" <zooko at zooko.com>
>> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
>> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:37:17 -0600
>> Subject: [liberationtech] how do I tell these Chinese people "You're
>> doing      it wrong!" ?
>>
>> Folks:
>>
>> It kind of seems like some people in China might be relying on using
>> the Tahoe-LAFS public demo over unencrypted HTTP and thinking that it
>> provides security properties like they would get if they ran their own
>> copy of Tahoe-LAFS locally:
>>
>> http://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2010-November/005535.html
>>
>> Or maybe that's not what they are thinking. There is a large
>> language/cultural barrier here through which "google translate"
>> provides merely a glimpse of meaning. As far as I know they have never
>> read or understood any of my attempts to communicate with them.
>>
>> Any suggestions from this crowd about how to manage this situation? As
>> shown in the discussion on the tahoe-dev list, we might take down the
>> public demo entirely or, more likely, try to put some sort of warning
>> label on it in Chinese.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Zooko
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