[Bigbang-dev] Bigbang-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 9

Tue Mar 16 16:33:40 CET 2021

Hi Nick,
thanks for your feedback :-)
To be honest, the website of the Prototype Fund confuses me a bit since the
information on there is contradicting itself in several places (I think).

> I don't know if this program funds work on existing open source projects
or only new projects that are producing their first prototypes.
On the actual application from they ask: "Have you already worked on the
idea? If so, briefly describe the current status and explain the planned
changes."
This made me think that it is not a problem that BigBang has already been
developed for some years.
Furthermore, they ask: "Briefly outline the most important milestones that
are to be implemented during the funding period."
Therefore if we have particular aims (such as implementing a dashboards)
that is fine I think.

> Also, the English-language version of the webpage seems to suggest that
they expect teams to be located in Germany.
Yes, but then I see for example this
<https://prototypefund.de/project/cobox/> project they are currently
funding. It has a number of members that do not live in Germany, as can be
seen from digging into here <https://cobox.cloud/team>.
A quick search made me think that maybe only Mooness Davarian really lives
in Germany and that most are in London (even the co-applicant Gregory
Jones, according to this
<http://www.checkcompany.co.uk/director/14364177/MOONESS-DAVARIAN>).

> I don't know if suggesting time/work that would be done by other BigBang
developers in other countries would be a discouragement for funding the
proposal [...]
We can only try. Otherwise we have a template for another time/opportunity
:-) (they have six <https://prototypefund.de/projects/?filter=timeline>
more rounds we can apply for I think)

Thanks for you pointers to existing work! I didn't know anything about them.

Cheers,
Christoph

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> Hi all,
> I just wanted to remind everyone that the deadline for the Prototype Fund
> <https://prototypefund.de/en/> is at the 30th of March.
> Thus if you are still interested to implement your ideas and be payed for
> it, let me know and I will include them in the proposal (as has to be
> written in German and can only be submitted by someone registered in
> Germany).
>
> Best Wishes,
> Christoph
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> Thanks for following up on this, Christoph.
>
> I think it's an encouraging program to apply for as I really like the model
> of a fund specific for public interest technology and for short-timeline
> open source software development.
>
> I don't know if this program funds work on existing open source projects or
> only new projects that are producing their first prototypes. Also, the
> English-language version of the webpage seems to suggest that they expect
> teams to be located in Germany. I don't know if suggesting time/work that
> would be done by other BigBang developers in other countries would be a
> discouragement for funding the proposal, but I wouldn't want to cause any
> problems for the proposal. (Personally, I would love to work on BigBang
> more and be funded to do it, but I don't know right now what time I'll have
> available depending on what I figure out for long-term employment.)
>
> In terms of existing/alternative work, while I haven't seen much that is
> directly similar to BigBang's focus on mailing list archive analysis
> (honestly, I keep expecting that one day someone will just point us to some
> other project that does all of this!), there are a couple previous
> relevant, alternative projects to point to:
> * ponymail, an Apache incubator project, provides a search interface for
> mailing list archives that includes some basic statistical overviews
> * the Enron Email Dataset prompted academic research on email, including
> many individual analyses, although not much generalizable open source
> software that I'm aware of: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~./enron/
>
> I think a valuable project would be to start providing dashboards of the
> current and historical status of some set of prominent mailing lists (like
> IETF or W3C), so that there was an ongoing easily digestible overview of
> the topics, traffic, etc. of an organization's email traffic. That could be
> an entryway into the software that isn't just a Jupyter notebook analyzing
> a particular research question (although I think that's a super valuable
> format as well). But a dashboard overview for one organization could be a
> good short-term prototype project, and I think it would be welcomed by IETF
> or a similar Internet governance group, so it could be a good partnership
> as well.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Nick
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:02 PM Christoph Becker <chrbecker01 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I just wanted to remind everyone that the deadline for the Prototype Fund
> > <https://prototypefund.de/en/> is at the 30th of March.
> > Thus if you are still interested to implement your ideas and be payed for
> > it, let me know and I will include them in the proposal (as has to be
> > written in German and can only be submitted by someone registered in
> > Germany).
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Christoph
> >
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