[liberationtech] The bitcoin terrorists of Idlib are learning new tricks
Richard Brooks
rrb at g.clemson.edu
Sun May 23 20:40:25 CEST 2021
Possibly z-cash, monero, or dash, one would think.
Or mixers and VPNs.
Article is quite vague.
On 5/23/21 12:17 PM, Ox Cart wrote:
> Despite the lead in, there was little concrete in the article about what
> exactly terrorists are doing to "avoid detection". Anyone have any
> insights into this? Are they using mixers, are they using straw
> recipients to hide their identity on the exchange side, what?
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2021, 1:48 AM Marc Sunet <msunet at shellblade.net
> <mailto:msunet at shellblade.net>> wrote:
>
> I don't mean to digress or justify the riot, but as far as I have
> read, the whole story about the fire extinguisher to the head was
> just not true:
>
> https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer
> <https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer>
>
> https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/
> <https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/>
>
> On 5/21/21 12:19 PM, Lorelei Kelly wrote:
>> indeed. so tiresome. I feel especially insulted by this spewing
>> anti-social nonsense as someone who worked in the US Capitol
>> campus (until it became an armed camp). Those nihilistic goons
>> terrorized or killed my colleagues (the Capitol Hill police)
>> Enough already with the MadMax ranting. We have so many real and
>> perilous challenges before us.
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:03 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker
>> <phill at hallambaker.com <mailto:phill at hallambaker.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I find the Trotskyite-Libertarianism of the coinsplainers to
>> be a crushing bore. The arguments are infantile, ignorant and
>> insulting.
>>
>> Don't be fooled by the techno-babble, these same people have
>> been at the same old libertopian schemes since the mid 90s.
>> Every time it is different, every time it is the same. The
>> Feds crushed e-Gold which was beyond reach of government. Then
>> the Feds crushed gold age which beyond reach of government.
>> BitCoin is the reason gas prices soared last week with the
>> Colonial Pipeline attack. Fixing cybersecurity is expensive.
>> Criminalizing crypto-currencies is a much cheaper approach.
>>
>> I see absolutely nothing moral in crypto-currencies. Anyone
>> can prattle on about 'freedom'. Tump's jackbooted goons
>> stormed the capitol on Jan 6th in the name of 'freedom', they
>> called everyone who opposed them 'sheep'. By their fruits
>> shall ye know them: grarpamp's language clearly shows him to
>> be a bully. His only concept of 'freedom' is there being
>> nothing to stop him bullying others.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 10:46 AM Lorelei Kelly
>> <loreleikelly at gmail.com <mailto:loreleikelly at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> honest question grarpamp, what is your vision of a shared
>> future?
>> Where I'm from is the most unhealthy, violent and poor
>> part of the USA. PLUS, everyone has sawed off shotguns
>> and other arsenals in their basement. This kind of
>> well-armed defensive paranoia is not that unusual in rural
>> America. Do you really think your version of the world
>> would work in places like this? People here don't even
>> have bank accounts or Internet. I know what would happen.
>> The most vulnerable, defenseless people would be harmed.
>> Are you serious about these words you spout off? Do you
>> have a plan for the people who are going to fall between
>> the cracks of your crypto world? oh yes, "mutual aid"
>> I'd like to hear a more detailed alternative governing
>> plan, please.
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 2:03 AM Marc Sunet
>> <msunet at shellblade.net <mailto:msunet at shellblade.net>> wrote:
>>
>> "...but the men’s eyes remain locked on the price
>> chart – they are
>> trying to turn $10 into $20."
>>
>> Constantinople, here I come...
>>
>> On 4/7/21 5:49 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>> >>
>> https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria
>> <https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria>
>> > Anti-crypto FUD. Go look at all what kind of murder
>> > crime fraud etc the govts and everyone else does with
>> > many billions of dollars, rubles, yuan, etc.
>> > While both have similar crime ratios, fiat is still much
>> > larger net usage thus it carries magnitudes more crime.
>> > But fake news media wouldn't get any propaganda jobs,
>> > money, or influence in honestly reporting that fiat
>> story.
>> >
>> >> learning ... crypto
>> > Yes learn and adopt distributed crypto, move past
>> all your
>> > colosally obese growing governments that are
>> starting shit,
>> > stomping around the world murdering thousand and
>> thousands,
>> > torturing, prisoning, starving, stealing money from
>> you under
>> > threat of death to stuff their own crony wallets,
>> spyveillancing and
>> > passporting you entire life forever, FUD program on
>> 24x7 in your fake
>> > news, plotting more ways for GovCorp power to keep
>> sucking your life.
>> > Soon you won't even have the cash they keep printing
>> to intentionally
>> > devalue your wealth and living ability with,
>> saddling you with
>> > more and more of their wasted debt load... since they
>> > are now officially rolling out their worthless
>> cashless society
>> > fake crypto fiat called Central Bank Digital
>> Currencies CBDC's,
>> > MMT and UBI to screw and spy and control you even
>> more, turn you
>> > off and forfeit you in a second, and cancel your
>> activism,
>> > freespeech, dissent, freedom... totalitarian control
>> in the extreme.
>> > Govt lately saying you cant secede to have bit of
>> independence
>> > and freedom (catalan, hong kong, taiwan, etc...),
>> locking
>> > you down fining you shutting down your business all
>> 2020 corona,
>> > politicians baldly lying being idiots on your news,
>> social
>> > scoring gone insane. Yet not a peep of effective
>> resistance.
>> >
>> > Wake up sheeple, to what in the world is happening.
>> > GovCorp trying to end your monetary freedom,
>> > cashless, etc is no joke... you will lose remaining
>> freedom.
>> > You are free beautiful people.
>> > You don't need them or their crap anymore.
>> > You have crypto, can organize and do and build
>> > and teach and roads and charity and health and
>> > live as you wish locally and wider, voluntarily,
>> together.
>> > Go create freedom.
>> >
>> > Here are some surrounding subjects hinted in article,
>> > with two of them exposing a big underlying problem...
>> >
>> http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf
>> <http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf>
>> > https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal
>> <https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288>
>> >
>> https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram
>> <https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram>
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E>
>> >
>> > ps: Govts about to start WWIII. If you adopted
>> > crypto like crypto libertarians told you, you could
>> easily
>> > leave funding their wars, and them, off the list of
>> > things you choose to pay for.
>> >
>> > Your old "voting" obviously didn't get you any more
>> freedom,
>> > maybe the new distributed privacy crypto hotness will.
>> >
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