[liberationtech] Could you help our lonely 98-year-old WW2 vet neighbor regain access to his Yahoo email?

bo0od bo0od at riseup.net
Fri May 1 16:16:09 CEST 2020


 > What desktop project do you think would be the best investment of 
support,
 > or base for a new project, for building sufficient respectful empowerment
 > (privacy, anonymity, resilience, accessibility) for end users in?

Tox Chat: P2P, compatible with Tor, support voip and all needed features 
as 1-1 chat.

https://tox.chat/

fuzzyTew:
> It's up to us to support the best candidate for resolving these things in
> one place.  I used to lean towards getting pidgin to have quality, but I
> didn't have the capacity.
> 
> What desktop project do you think would be the best investment of support,
> or base for a new project, for building sufficient respectful empowerment
> (privacy, anonymity, resilience, accessibility) for end users in?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 7:06 PM bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>> Dino i forgot to mention it, it is supposedly good client but privacy
>> garbage on practical level because it doesnt support connection over
>> Tor, lack of IP-Port configurations, no encryption to local chat
>> history..etc:
>>
>> https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/745 (wont fix feature for encrypting
>> the chat when saved locally, and i assume same goes for username/password)
>>
>> https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/115 (modifying hostname and port
>> configuration not fixed since 3 years)
>>
>> https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/567 (said to be fixed but it did not
>> when trying that as it mentioned in whonix forum)
>>
>> https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/244 (no connection to hidden
>> services supported yet)
>>
>> has some other stuff:
>>
>> https://forums.whonix.org/t/dino-im-messenger/7773/13
>>
>> CoyIM was the best in its time but sadly developer jailed due to his
>> connections with wikileaks.
>>
>> Denver Gingerich:
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:44:51PM +0000, bo0od wrote:
>>>>> Also, the most popular XMPP clients (such as Conversations and
>> ChatSecure)
>>>>> have OMEMO built-in and use it by default.  So I think for most users,
>>>>> privacy is indeed the default with XMPP.
>>>>
>>>> These are mobile OS only based clients Conversations for Android only ,
>>>> Chatsecure for IOS only , what about Desktop? nothing active available
>> with
>>>> builtin encryption.
>>>
>>> Dino has OMEMO included by default.  There may be others that have it
>> included by default too - I don't know all desktop XMPP clients off-hand.
>>>
>>> For many clients (like Gajim), whether OMEMO is included is generally up
>> to the distribution's packager.  In Debian, for example, Gajim's OMEMO
>> support is indeed in a separate package, as you alluded to.
>>>
>>>> So lets say secure chatting over insecure operating systems (insecure
>>>> endings)
>>>
>>> You can run Conversations on Replicant, which is a fully free version of
>> Android.  But I do agree that it's better to use a non-phone when possible
>> for better security.
>>>
>>> Denver
>>> https://jmp.chat/
>>>
>>
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