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[fuzzyTew]

This idea is a little similar to median voting, but rather than finding
centrist positions I'm proposing "mediating" the available concerns so as
to find solutions that interests on both ends of extremes would support.

It sounds like what would be important would be getting people involved who
would be interested in and skilled at doing that
extremely-different-interest-mediation, and in organizing and focusing the
work to have clout comparable to the major parts of the mass market.


On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 9:53 PM Yosem Companys <yosem at techlantis.com> wrote:

> Interesting because what you propose sounds to me very much like an
> application of the median voter theorem to SIlicon Valley:
>
> The median voter theorem as developed by Anthony Downs in his 1957 book,
>> “An Economic Theory of Democracy,” is an attempt to explain why politicians
>> on both ends of the spectrum tend to gravitate towards the philosophical
>> center.  Downs, as well as economist Duncan Black, who proposed the theory
>> in 1948, argue that politicians take political positions are far as
>> possible near the center in order to appeal to as many potential voters as
>> possible.  Under certain constraints/assumptions, Black says, the median
>> voter “wins,” and the outcome ends up as a Nash equilibrium.
>
>
> https://econ243.academic.wlu.edu/2017/01/30/the-median-voter-theorem/
>
> I do wonder whether there is a similar trend at work in Silicon Valley as
> some posit is occurring in the nation as a whole?
>
> [The median voter theorem is] not much of a theory at all anymore.
>> Well-organized interest groups like the National Rifle Association and the
>> National Education Association as well as large donors and ideological
>> warriors on both sides have more clout than the median voter because they
>> are organized and focused while most people aren’t.
>>
>
>
> And in many nonpresidential elections, the median voter probably isn’t
>> voting at all. That’s particularly true for low-income people: Election
>> participation by people in households just below the median income of
>> $52,000 was around 40 percent in 2014, compared with 52 percent for voters
>> in households earning $150,000 or more.
>
>
> Applied to Silicon Valley, one would argue that startup entrepreneurs make
> products for the mass market rather than for all consumers and startup
> investors only tend to invest in such companies, thereby marginalizing
> those groups that care about social goods the most but that have been
> systematically excluded from the marketplace by not being mass market.
>
> For example, Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who are mostly white and male
> may target their sales and marketing to non-minorities because of these
> groups' higher income levels and cultural understandings or to certain ages
> such as younger demographics at the detriment of, say, the elderly.
>
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> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 9:41 PM, fuzzyTew fuzzytew at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What about the idea stimulates the thought of artificial limits?  I see
>> it as growing and shaping the options to include everyone's views, rather
>> than artificially limiting anything at all.
>>
>> Like if group A likes privacy, group B likes control of their people, and
>> group C likes complete transparency of communications, you might make a
>> blockchain app where the ISP can toggle some reviewable privacy feature for
>> their subnetwork to be set by user consensus, denied subnetwork-wide, or
>> forced on subnetwork-wide.
>>
>> You'd open the project to any concerns and mediate them all to be fully
>> included, such that anyone who can communicate with the design process can
>> massage the product to meet their preferences, no matter who they are.
>>
>> I'm used to thinking of crowdsourcing funds and developers from potential
>> users, as opposed to seeking investors. I guess businesses are used to
>> starting with money, though.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020, 2:53 PM The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510] <
>> drwho at virtadpt.net> wrote:
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:47 AM, fuzzyTew <fuzzytew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why isn't it seen as a sound business plan to honestly and transparently
>> meet everyone's concerns and fundraise among anyone who likes the idea?
>>
>>
>> If I were an investor (angel or otherwise) and I saw that in the business
>> plan, I'd back away fast.  That means the company
>> wants to artificially limit their success and profit, which means the
>> return on my investment would be impacted.  That's not
>> good business.
>>
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