[liberationtech] Time to Switch to Discord & Mozilla Firefox?

John Ohno john.ohno at gmail.com
Tue Jun 25 16:56:54 CEST 2019


> So you can choose many different clients (not based on electron) and as
well you can make your own client...

So, you're saying there are mature clients for Matrix not based on webtech?

(I'm still shocked that people are choosing Matrix, Discord, or Slack over
IRC.)

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:37 AM bo0od <bo0od at riseup.net> wrote:

> You didnt make your study well:
>
> Matrix is just the protocol , Riot is the client app which is based on
> electron. So you can choose many different clients (not based on
> electron) and as well you can make your own client...
>
> John Ohno:
> > Discord, Slack, and Matrix are all Electron apps (i.e., they are web
> pages
> > that ship with complete copies of Chrome). While the proximate reason
> > people are currently leaving Chrome (new limitations that make
> ad-blocking
> > less effective) isn't terribly relevant to electron apps, long-term
> > attempts to encourage browser diversity are not aided by the myth (widely
> > believed) that the only reliable way to do cross-platform GUI
> applications
> > is to ship a complete copy of Chrome with a webpage. (Flutter is no
> better
> > than Electron here: it is also a matter of shipping a complete copy of
> > Chrome with a web page.)
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:36 AM <
> mailinglists-liberationtech at 927589452.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 19-06-23 22:17:02, Yosem Companys wrote:
> >>> Discord: what Facebook is trying to become.
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/how-discord-went-mainstream-influencers/584671/
> >>>
> >> You should rather stick to a federated solution like matrix for group
> >> chats IMO.
> >>
> >> J
> >>
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