[liberationtech] Time to Switch to Discord & Mozilla Firefox?

[aryt alasti]

Hi, Axel -

In this article is a link to what is probably the Eric Schmidt interview to
which you referred. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the Financial
Times.
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/Eric_Schmidt_Explains_Googles_Chrome_Strategy

On the subject of invasive monitoring:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/eric-schmidt-google-creepy_n_748915.html

The Riot post-beta features look very good, but I'm concerned that a lot of
user reviews at the Google Play app listing are negative.

https://medium.com/@RiotChat/the-big-1-0-68fa7c6050be

                                                                      Aryt

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019, 10:36 AM axel simon <axelsimon at axelsimon.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:17:02PM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote:
> > Discord: what Facebook is trying to become.
> >
> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/how-discord-went-mainstream-influencers/584671/
> >
> > Why to switch from Google Chrome to Mozilla Firefox.
> >
> https://www.siliconvalley.com/2019/06/21/google-chrome-has-become-surveillance-software-its-time-to-switch/
> >
>
> Hi,
> Discord is interesting in that it's popular and offers people the
> possibility to have their own community (which they call "server", I
> believe), but there's nothing free and open source about it.
> Matrix, and its main client Riot, are much more interesting to me
> currently, as they are (ambitiously) trying to solve multiple problems at
> once: a modern chat system, with voice and video and file sharing, with
> end-to-end cryptography, while maintaining a decentralised network
> architecture so that anyone can run their own instance, join and federate
> with the rest.
> Current versions of Riot might not be entirely as slick as Discord, but
> they are getting better and they are very usable.
> Incidently, Matrix has bridges to connect to other chat network (and
> ideally, bridge them together, hence the name), and can bridge to Discord.
> So there's a possibility of getting everyone to play nice with each other.
>
> Regarding Firefox vs. Chrome, Firefox has been the only browser (with any
> relevant market share) that isn't the product of a for profit company for a
> while. While Mozilla have made questionable descisions at time (and
> outright mistakes at others), that alone should be a strong argument to
> consider where one gets their browser from. I recall reading a statement in
> an article around Chrome's release about 10 years ago by then-CEO Eric
> Schmidt explaining that at the end of the day, if you want to be able to
> really control and see what users are doing, you need your own browser.
> This was when people couldn't quite understand why Google would build its
> own browser when Firefox had manage to end the Internet Explorer dead lock
> and they had a good relationship.
> That passage really stayed with me (and if anyone were to find it, I'd be
> very greatful, I can't seem to do so).
>
> So yes, it's not that surprising that, when push comes to shove, the
> engineering teams working on Chrome have to bow to the business priorities
> of Google, the world's (more or less) biggest advertisement company.
>
> Cheers,
>
> axel
>
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