[liberationtech] Internet outage in Eastern Europe, Iran, and Turkey
John Young
jya at pipeline.com
Sun Dec 22 10:55:59 CET 2019
Presumable some national outages are trial runs
by governments, by Internet operators, by cable
operators (and their contractors), by
corporations, by enemies, by hackers. by pre-teens giggling at stupid adults.
Same trial runs for software as with spies, by
same interests working solo, in concert or against one another.
Many reports of trial runs discovered, found
accidentally, disclosed as threats, usual
fuck-ups of technology over-reaching its
capabilities. Kings, queens, politicians,
military, engineers, architects, scientists,
missionaries, evangelists, businesses, pre-teens
been doing these con-jobs since the beginning.
Can't name a country, nation, kingdom, invaders,
murderers, animal species, that did not get its
start this way, and deploys shitstorms to keep
control against successors and predators.
BTW, care to invest infected cryptocurrency in my
digital bullshit media manufactory?
At 07:56 PM 12/21/2019, you wrote:
>From: Sean Donelan
><<mailto:sean at donelan.com>sean at donelan.com> viaÂ
><mailto:nanog at nanog.org>nanog at nanog.org
>
>I hadn't seen messages about this Internet outage affecting multiple
>countries (Eastern Europe, Turkey and Iran) from Thursday.
>
>Multiple fiber cuts affecting major parts of sub-continents don't happen
>as much any more. Yes, I still remember the day of FIVE (5) simultaneous,
>transcontinental fiber cuts in the USA. I was busy :-)
>
>I don't know if Internet route diversity has improved... or people aren't
>sending me messages about them anymore.
>---------------------------------
>
>I have become quite interested in this lately. I don't send them
>to the list as no one seemed interested when I sent them before.Â
>For example, India as been turning off the internet like they turn
>the lights:
>
><https://internetshutdowns.in/>https://internetshutdowns.in/
>
>Kashmir has been without internet for over 100 days:
>
><https://guardian.ng/news/world/restive-kashmir-marks-100-days-since-india-stripped-autonomy/>https://guardian.ng/news/world/restive-kashmir-marks-100-days-since-india-stripped-autonomy/
>
>Just think how you'd do anything without internet for 100+ days!
>
>------------------------------------
>Usually after a country as 3 or 4 major egress points, large-scale
>unintentional internet outages are relatively rare. Countries with only
>1 or 2 egress points still have lots of problems.
>------------------------------------
>
>I'm not so sure 3-4 is a large enough number. Many countries are
>copying China in information repression (among other things) which
>includes building in the ability to turn off internet access
>(internationally as well as intranationally) as their network is
>built out. Funny that one thing something as large as a country
>is afraid of is normal folks talking to each other freely. They
>really don't like the end-to-end principle. :)
>
>scott
>
><https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50851420>https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50851420
>
>Severed fibre optic cables disrupted internet access in parts of eastern
>Europe, Iran and Turkey on Thursday.
>
>The issue, which lasted for about two hours, was caused by multiple fibre
>cables being physically cut at the same time, a highly unusual thing to
>happen.
>
>Â
>
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