[liberationtech] Facebook blocking Re: liberationtech Digest, Vol 245, Issue 1

[Gwendolyn Albert]

I experienced this recently and refused to send any identification - don't
do it, they are totally random about whom they block and it is
discriminatory of them to ask it of some and not others.

You can start another account using a different email address if you really
need to stay there.

Gwendolyn Albert

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>    2. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (lilo)
>    3. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on        Facebook?!
>       (Steve Weis)
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>       (Heather Akers-Healy)
>    5. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Inna Malina)
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>       (Inna Malina)
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>       (Inna Malina)
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>       (Inna Malina)
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>       (Al Billings)
>   10. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on        Facebook?!
>       (Heather Akers-Healy)
>   11. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Inna Malina)
>   12. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Inna Malina)
>   13. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on        Facebook?!
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>   14. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
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>       (Inna Malina)
>   16. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Arzak Khan)
>   17. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Inna Malina)
>   18. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (aestetix)
>   19. Re: What should the "liberation tech" response be to
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>   20. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (hellekin)
>   21. Re: What should the "liberation tech" response be to
>       ISIS-related recruiting online? (Sean Lynch)
>   22. Re: What should the "liberation tech" response be to
>       ISIS-related recruiting online? (Sean Lynch)
>   23. Re: Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!
>       (Inna Malina)
>   24. Dead Tree Lovers -- Call for Books (Moritz Bartl)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:11:29 +0200
> From: aestetix <aestetix at aestetix.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <5597B151.4 at aestetix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Is there an appropriate way to call for Facebook to be more transparent
> about their data security and rentention policies?
>
> My concern here is not that Facebook wouldn't use SSL to collect an ID,
> but why they can demand the ID in the first place. Do they treat the ID
> (sensitive data) differently than just an email attachment? Who has
> access to it? How do they delete it? Do they have a big hard drive
> filled with ID documents? Will they share ID information with
> governments when subpoenaed?
>
> There are many more questions, but Facebook would do well to at least
> answer these to start with.
>
> On 7/4/15 12:03 PM, Hassen wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online
> > channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she
> > use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Hassen
> >
> > On 04 ???, 2015 ? 03:54, Steve Weis wrote:
> >> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> >> account.
> >>
> >> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> >>
> >> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> >> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> >> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
> >>
> >> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of
> >> mail would suffice.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com
> >> <mailto:p.inna at lycos.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at
> >>     war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian
> >>     Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks
> >>     Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 1800 members. I also run
> >>     fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children evacuated from
> >>     war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don?t
> >>     pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos
> >>     are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> >>     annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name
> >>     to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with
> >>     outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the
> >>     threats and bullying online were/are abundant.
> >>
> >>     Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> >>     following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> >>     demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of
> >>     ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel
> >>     rather uncomfortable sending my identification documents via
> >>     insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
> >>     legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can?t expect
> >>     a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be
> >>     e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >>
> >>     Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> >>     blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists
> >>     who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin
> >>     trolls. The petition, which has already collected close to 15000
> >>     signatures, states:  ?Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these
> >>     reports by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public
> >>     figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so
> >>     frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> >>     efficient tool of the Kremlin.?
> >>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple
> >>     times and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers,
> >>     which collected over 40000 signatures asserts:  ?Facebook tells us
> >>     that "it looks like you're not using your real name," before
> >>     requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough that
> >>     Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name."
> >>     Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their
> >>     accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> >>     ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.?
> >>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> >>     People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> >>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> >>
> >>     Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: ?If your
> >>     friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name
> >>     on Facebook, you should be able to do that,? he said. In this
> >>     case, he said, the policy ?should be able to support everyone
> >>     using their own real names, including everyone in the transgender
> >>     community.?
> >>
> >>     So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users
> >>     or is he simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will
> >>     Facebook start treating its users with basic respect, when will it
> >>     stop political blocking and discrimination?*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > --
> > Hassen Selmi
> > Incident Security Handler
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> > Helpline PGP Fingerprint: 6CE6 221C 98EC F399 A04C 41B8 C46B ED33 32E8
> A2BC
> > Personal PGP ID: 0x3EF06D5C
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:01:11 +0200
> From: lilo <al3lilo at autistici.org>
> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <5597D917.4080409 at autistici.org>
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>
> Il 03/07/2015 05:57, Inna Malina ha scritto:
>
> hi :)
>
> > Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> > following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> > demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I
> > submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather
>
> activism, or hacktivism, or "people that report", isnt the answer, but
> the answer is new facebook's policy and a software that is seraching
> random people that NOT stay signed with *real name and surname*.  with
> the nickname, for exemple :)
>
> and for more BAD, seems the policy is RETROACTIVE.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_controversy
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/29/facebooks-real-names-policy-is-legal-but-its-also-problematic-for-free-speech
>
>
> mine the same, but i think in italy only DIGOS/POLICE/VATTELAVA can ask
> me a document ID, or a bank :D i dont upload a document neither if they
> become purple, but a LOT of people are doing  for take their account.
>
> i'm on third one, and i will go until they will die.
>
> lol
>
> yep, i'm an hacktivist, but they dont care, they care profiling and
> tracking, and send notices to police o other shit regarding JOB, for
> exemple.  or for business.
>
> i'm in hackerberg mode_on.
>
> cheers, lilo
>
> --
> lilo
> http://wiki.debian.org/LILO
> ####
> X-LiLo
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> ####
> e' tutto calcolato, ma non funziona niente.
> bit in rebels => devuan.org
> *nuova* PGP-KEY-ID [RSA4096]: 0x0A0E6F2A
> FINGERPRINT: 0CDE C1F3 4961 0B26 5B7A 3F1E 7033 7472 0A0E 6F2A
> server: hkp pool.sks-keyservers.net
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 09:25:55 -0700
> From: Steve Weis <steveweis at gmail.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on    Facebook?!
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello Hassan. The PGP encryption feature is used only for outbound email
> from Facebook. For example, password reset emails sent to you may be
> encrypted.
>
> I think in this case, submitting documentation over TLS is preferable to
> attaching it in a PGP-encrypted email both for security and usability. If
> it was the case where I could only submit sensitive documents via email or
> a shared file system, then PGP would make complete sense.
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Hassen <hassen at accessnow.org> wrote:
>
> > I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online
> > channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she
> use
> > the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately?
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> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 09:57:22 -0700
> From: Heather Akers-Healy <hrahhrah at gmail.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on    Facebook?!
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>
> Steve, I don't expect a public reply to the comments I'm writing below, but
> perhaps internally at FB you might make some headway.
>
> You write:
>
> "Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
>
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice."
>
> An activist using a pseudonym on Facebook and working in a country or
> situation where it is dangerous to reveal their identity would be smart to
> not have *any* personally identifying information tied to their account at
> all. Facebook would do well to get rid of any name or identity requirements
> and instead focus on how users are behaving. Reporting based solely on
> behavior can still be abused so there should be some threshold to meet
> before an account is suspended. Facebook is a large, profitable company.
> Surely they can afford to beef up the staff handling account suspensions so
> that more actual human review takes place *before* situations like these
> occur.
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Steve Weis <steveweis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> account.
> >
> > I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> >
> > Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> > acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
> >
> > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> > would suffice.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war.
> >> I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada
> for
> >> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> >> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> >> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook
> since
> >> 2007 and don?t pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact
> info,
> >> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded
> and
> >> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> >> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social
> media
> >> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> >> were/are abundant.
> >>
> >> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> >> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> demanded
> >> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I
> submitted a
> >> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> >> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did
> add
> >> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype,
> but
> >> they can?t expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance
> card
> >> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >>
> >> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> >> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who
> are
> >> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The
> petition,
> >> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:
> ?Facebook
> >> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> >> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the
> bans
> >> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become
> an
> >> efficient tool of the Kremlin.?
> >> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> >> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which
> collected
> >> over 40000 signatures asserts:  ?Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> >> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> >> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or
> isn't
> >> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked
> out of
> >> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> >> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.?
> >>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> >> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> >>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> >>
> >> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: ?If your friends
> >> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook,
> you
> >> should be able to do that,? he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> >> ?should be able to support everyone using their own real names,
> including
> >> everyone in the transgender community.?
> >>
> >> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
> >> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will Facebook start
> >> treating its users with basic respect, when will it stop political
> blocking
> >> and discrimination?*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:56:43 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <47de054c72ac982984c3836801f5269e at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> These are all valid points from aestetix and I am questioning the
> legality and security of mining government and other personal
> identification documents by Facebook. Who guarantees their safety? With
> the identity theft on a rise, why I am forced to submit ID online? Who
> will guarantee my and my family safety if my personal data becomes
> accessible to Putin trolls?
>
> I called non-emergency line for police in Canada. They did not recommend
> to submit any ID online, second, they could not locate any phone number
> for Facebook.
>
> By submitting my IDs, the issue won't be resolved. I think Facebook
> should really look at their policies and invest into a HelpDesk where
> those issues can be addressed with real people instead of users seeking
> help all over Internet in another country and through media. It is 4th
> day I am locked out and there is no end to it.
>
> Happy Independence Day to our friends in US!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-04 4:11 am, aestetix wrote:
>
> > Is there an appropriate way to call for Facebook to be more transparent
> > about their data security and rentention policies?
> >
> > My concern here is not that Facebook wouldn't use SSL to collect an ID,
> > but why they can demand the ID in the first place. Do they treat the ID
> > (sensitive data) differently than just an email attachment? Who has
> > access to it? How do they delete it? Do they have a big hard drive
> > filled with ID documents? Will they share ID information with
> > governments when subpoenaed?
> >
> > There are many more questions, but Facebook would do well to at least
> > answer these to start with.
> >
> > On 7/4/15 12:03 PM, Hassen wrote:
> > Hi Steve, I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure
> online channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that
> she use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately? Thank
> you. Hassen On 04 ???, 2015 ? 03:54, Steve Weis wrote: Hello Inna. I work
> at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. I'm not in a
> position to discuss the merits of the policy. Regardless, for future
> reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of acceptable forms of ID that
> are not government issued: https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
> [1] For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of
> mail would suffice. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <
> p.inna at lycos.com <mailto:p.inna at lycos.com>> wrote: I am a Ukrainian
> Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I created several
> groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a
> political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over
> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children
> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and
> don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos
> are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed
> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to
> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying
> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are
> abundant. Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can't expect a photocopy of a
> driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted
> through some suspicious form online. Only last month Facebook has come
> under fire for biased political blocking of accounts of Russian opposition
> and Ukrainian activists who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army
> of Putin trolls. The petition, which has already collected close to 15000
> signatures, states: "Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these reports by
> blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian
> dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so frequent that we can now claim
> that Facebook has become an efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [2]
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to
> change it. We cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of
> what is or isn't a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names
> get locked out of their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [4] Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is
> Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of what his
> staff does. *When will
> Facebook start treating its users with basic respect, when will it stop
> political blocking and discrimination?* -- Liberationtech is public &
> archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get
> you moderated:
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> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:59:57 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> Thank you for your response. Finally a real person from Facebook to talk
> to. I am completely locked out (since mid-day July 1, 2015) and I
> received two more e-mails presumably from Facebook or someone
> impersonating it under name "Kalin". How I can trust my ID to someone
> who does not even state a real name. I no longer have access to a
> Facebook dashboard referred to in those e-mails.
>
> I wrote to Facebook that I will show any ID in person or Skype, but no
> ID will be submitted to be stored in some database, security of which I
> am not assured off.
>
> I looked at the Option 2:
>
>         *
> Check
>         *
> Credit card
>         *
> Employment verification
>         * Social Security card
>         * Paycheck stub
>         * etc
>
> I really wonder legality of such requests.
>
> As per "real name policy", June 30, 2015 Zuckerberg explained: "If your
> friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on
> Facebook, you should be able to do that."
>
> So I am really confused now. Is Mr. Zuckerberg lying to his users or is
> he ignorant of what Faebook staff does.
>
> I don't want my name change on Facebook to be forced upon me. I am also
> questioning the legality of mining government IDs of users.
>
> There are zillions fake accounts with no activity on timeline, with no
> photos and few friends to harass other people, like myself. Yet, they
> get a green light and I get penalized. It is obvious to anyone who would
> look at my account, that it is indeed not a fake identity. Why do I need
> to submit my credit card or SIN number to prove the opposite. It is
> discriminatory and possible illegal.
>
> I think we have a juicy lawsuit emerging here.
>
> I would appreciate if you could communicate this issue up to those who
> are responsible for setting up such discriminatory policies.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-03 8:54 pm, Steve Weis wrote:
>
> > Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> account.
> >
> > I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> >
> > Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [5]
> >
> > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war.
> I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
> 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> were/are abundant.
> >>
> >> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >>
> >> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1]
> >>
> >> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [3]
> >>
> >> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community."
> >>
> >> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START
> TREATING ITS USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL BLOCKING
> AND DISCRIMINATION?
> >>
> >> --
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> [1]
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> [2]
>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3]
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:49:42 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <baa74ff765b364c6427ae6f437a4b568 at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> Thank you for your response. Finally a real person from Facebook to talk
> to. I am completely locked out (since mid-day July 1, 2015) and I
> received two more e-mails presumably from Facebook or someone
> impersonating it under name "Kalin". How I can trust my ID to someone
> who does not even state a real name. I no longer have access to a
> Facebook dashboard referred to in those e-mails.
>
> I wrote to Facebook that I will show any ID in person or Skype, but no
> ID will be submitted to be stored in some database, security of which I
> am not assured off.
>
> I looked at the Option 2:
>
>         *
> Check
>         *
> Credit card
>         *
> Employment verification
>         * Social Security card
>         * Paycheck stub
>         * etc
>
> I really wonder legality of such requests.
>
> As per "real name policy", June 30, 2015 Zuckerberg explained: "If your
> friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on
> Facebook, you should be able to do that."
>
> So I am really confused now. Is Mr. Zuckerberg lying to his users or is
> he ignorant of what Faebook staff does.
>
> I don't want my name change on Facebook to be forced upon me. I am also
> questioning the legality of mining government IDs of users.
>
> There are zillions fake accounts with no activity on timeline, with no
> photos and few friends to harass other people, like myself. Yet, they
> get a green light and I get penalized. It is obvious to anyone who would
> look at my account, that it is indeed not a fake identity. Why do I need
> to submit my credit card or SIN number to prove the opposite. It is
> discriminatory and possible illegal.
>
> I think we have a juicy lawsuit emerging here.
>
> I would appreciate if you could communicate this issue up to those who
> are responsible for setting up such discriminatory policies.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-03 8:54 pm, Steve Weis wrote:
>
> > Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> account.
> >
> > I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> >
> > Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [5]
> >
> > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war.
> I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
> 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> were/are abundant.
> >>
> >> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >>
> >> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1]
> >>
> >> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [3]
> >>
> >> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community."
> >>
> >> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START
> TREATING ITS USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL BLOCKING
> AND DISCRIMINATION?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google.
> Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech [4].
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> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> [2]
>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3]
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [4] https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:08:26 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <22a7b81d4f7f205210c7697f282695cb at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> I don't have "membership card" with my birth-date on, I only have
> driving license, health card and passport with my birthday on. I don't
> remember seeing any membership cards here with birthdate on.
>
> Heather is raising important points. I also tried to have an alternative
> FB account and I was locked out there too two days ago. I wonder if
> someone is praying on me via my IP address.
>
> All of this is more than frustrating. Facebook should treat its users
> with basic respect. I feel none of that,
>
> Thank you,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-04 10:57 am, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
>
> > Steve, I don't expect a public reply to the comments I'm writing below,
> but perhaps internally at FB you might make some headway.
> >
> > You write:
> >
> > "Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1]
> >
> > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice."
> >
> > An activist using a pseudonym on Facebook and working in a country or
> situation where it is dangerous to reveal their identity would be smart to
> not have *any* personally identifying information tied to their account at
> all. Facebook would do well to get rid of any name or identity requirements
> and instead focus on how users are behaving. Reporting based solely on
> behavior can still be abused so there should be some threshold to meet
> before an account is suspended. Facebook is a large, profitable company.
> Surely they can afford to beef up the staff handling account suspensions so
> that more actual human review takes place *before* situations like these
> occur.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Steve Weis <steveweis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> account.
> >
> > I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> >
> > Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> > https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1]
> >
> > For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
> 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> were/are abundant.
> >
> > Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >
> > Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [2]
> >
> > Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [4]
> >
> > Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community."
> >
> > So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START
> TREATING ITS USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL BLOCKING
> AND DISCRIMINATION?
> >
> > --
> > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations
> of list guidelines will get you moderated:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech [5].
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> [2]
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> [3]
>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [4]
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
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> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 11:24:33 -0700
> From: Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on    Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <A9E17CD9-773D-4005-8460-8DDBF2EB7249 at openbuddha.com>
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> Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 11:30:18 -0700
> From: Heather Akers-Healy <hrahhrah at gmail.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on    Facebook?!
> Message-ID:
>         <CAJmtAGaYETOGmNPyZrRCk1-p8jfPc1mBtM+Cc-X3A=
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>
> Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it despite not agreeing or
> not being able to comply with their stupid real name policy.
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
> > --
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:30:34 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
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>
>
> If I knew Facebook will abuse me like this, I would have quit it long
> ago. However, with the war in Ukraine, we use Facebook to combat
> propaganda, plan and coordinate global protests, raise funds to support
> those who suffered from war. At this point, it will be detrimental not
> to be able to continue with those activities.
>
> On 2015-07-04 12:24 pm, Al Billings wrote:
>
> > Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
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> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 12:37:22 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <522cb70f1b478ac5e1bb81fc1b1771da at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Obviously Facebook senior management wants to run it cheap, put their
> users at risk and put their staff into a position where they have to
> enforce for them discriminatory and possible illegal procedures and
> policies.
>
> How about investing like "real" companies do into an actual HelpDesk
> instead of demanding what a government agency or employer would do.
> Facebook, you don't employ me or own me! You don't provide my health
> care either! Why do I need to submit my ID?! Where is phone number and
> real people to talk to?! Anyone who have ever requested my ID had an
> office or desk I could come to. This anarchy should stop.
>
> On 2015-07-04 12:30 pm, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
>
> > Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it despite not agreeing or
> not being able to comply with their stupid real name policy.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:48:52 -0700
> From: Shelley <shelley at misanthropia.org>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>, Al Billings
>         <albill at openbuddha.com>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on    Facebook?!
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> On July 4, 2015 11:24:46 AM Al Billings <albill at openbuddha.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
>
>  People should just not use Facebook.  Fixed that for you!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 03:15:02 +0600
> From: "A.Chukin" <achukin at riseup.net>
> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <55984CD6.3020906 at riseup.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> burocracy of others.
>
> 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan ?????:
> > I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been
> blocked on reports of government supported trolls.
> > I am not sure if you can unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as
> a user is required as per their policy to submit a photo identification
> document.
> > Anyone on the list have any experience with it?
> > Cheers!
> > Arzak
> > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600
> > From: p.inna at lycos.com
> > To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> > Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on
> Facebook?!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
> 2007 and don?t pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> were/are abundant.
> >
> > Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can?t expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> >
> > Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:  ?Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin.?
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> >
> >
> >
> > Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts:  ?Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.?
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> >
> > Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: ?If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that,? he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> ?should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community.?
> >
> > So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. When will Facebook start
> treating its users with basic respect, when will it stop political blocking
> and discrimination?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: achukin at riseup.net, liberationtech
>         <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <3959e60cb2dac060454e0820e1e2ae82 at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper
> Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking.
> I wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
>
> On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
>
> > I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> > blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> > society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> > reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> > some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> > impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> > rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> > personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> > burocracy of others.
> >
> > 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan ?????:
> >
> >> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been
> blocked on reports of government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can
> unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as per
> their policy to submit a photo identification document. Anyone on the list
> have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13
> -0600 From: p.inna at lycos.com To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on
> Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is
> at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking
> Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda,
> and has over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
> orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas
> of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I
> am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know
> who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I
> changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people
> I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since
> the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada
> Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a report from someone
> who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my name by
> submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I
> get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification
> documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
> legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't expect a
> photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or
> submitted through some suspicious form
> online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1]
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real
> name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their
> accounts while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself
> Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [3] Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is
> Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of what his
> staff does. When will Facebook start treating its users with basic respect,
> when will it stop political blocking and
> discrimination?
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> [2]
>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3]
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 09:46:38 +0000
> From: Arzak Khan <azrak_khan at hotmail.com>
> To: Libertaiontechlist <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <BLU180-W88CD58B1CF45B3F32B8114FF940 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r"
>
> Inna,
>
> Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
> the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the list
> shared this email earlier.
>
> I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
> help at accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
> get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.
>
> We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access in
> this initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of activists from
> our region.
>
> Best,
>
> Arzak
>
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
> From: p.inna at lycos.com
> To: achukin at riseup.net; liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked
> on Facebook?!
>
>
>
> We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper
> Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking. I
> wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
>
>
> I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> burocracy of others.
>
> 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan ?????:
> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been
> blocked on reports of government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can
> unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as per
> their policy to submit a photo identification document. Anyone on the list
> have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13
> -0600 From: p.inna at lycos.com To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on
> Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is
> at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking
> Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda,
> and has over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
> orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of
>  Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am
> not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know
> who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I
> changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people
> I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since
> the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada
> Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a report from someone
> who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my name by
> submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I
> get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification
> documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
> legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't expect a
> photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or
> submitted through some suspicious form online.
>  Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performe
>  rs with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts while
> people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without
> scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends all
> call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is
> Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of what his
> staff does. When will Facebook start treating its users with basic respect,
> when will it stop political blocking and discrimination?
>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:19:31 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <19457473a1bbf30141ed27dc9f517417 at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>
> Thank you, Arzak!
>
> They contacted me right away offering help, however it seems they don't
> have a way around Facebook policies requiring IDs.
>
> I hope the matter can be resolved soon.
>
> I am now blocked for 5 days.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-05 3:46 am, Arzak Khan wrote:
>
> > Inna,
> >
> > Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
> > the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the list
> shared this email earlier.
> >
> > I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
> > help at accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
> > get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.
> >
> > We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access in
> this initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of activists from
> our region.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Arzak
> >
> > -------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
> > From: p.inna at lycos.com
> > To: achukin at riseup.net; liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
> unblocked on Facebook?!
> >
> > We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper
> Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking. I
> wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
> >
> > On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
> >
> > I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> > blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> > society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> > reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> > some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> > impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> > rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> > personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> > burocracy of others.
> >
> > 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan ?????:
> > I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been
> blocked on reports of government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can
> unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as per
> their policy to submit a photo identification document. Anyone on the list
> have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13
> -0600 From: p.inna at lycos.com To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on
> Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is
> at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking
> Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda,
> and has over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
> orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas
> of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I
> am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know
> who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I
> changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people
> I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since
> the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada
> Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a report from someone
> who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my name by
> submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I
> get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification
> documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
> legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't expect a
> photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or
> submitted through some suspicious form
> online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1]
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real
> name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their
> accounts while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself
> Doe" go without scrutiny."
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> [3] Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is
> Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of what his
> staff does. When will Facebook start treating its users with basic respect,
> when will it stop political blocking and
> discrimination?
>
> -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google.
> Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech.
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>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> [2]
>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> [3]
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
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> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 17:21:03 +0200
> From: aestetix <aestetix at aestetix.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <55994B5F.3060309 at aestetix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Please let us know how things work out, I will be very interested to see
> if they reinstate your account (without sending ID).
>
> On 7/5/15 5:19 PM, Inna Malina wrote:
> > Thank you, Arzak!
> >
> >
> >
> > They contacted me right away offering help, however it seems they don't
> > have a way around Facebook policies requiring IDs.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope the matter can be resolved soon.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am now blocked for 5 days.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> >
> > Inna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2015-07-05 3:46 am, Arzak Khan wrote:
> >
> >> Inna,
> >>
> >> Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
> >> the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the
> >> list shared this email earlier.
> >>
> >> I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
> >> help at accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
> >> get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.
> >>
> >> We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access
> >> in this initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of
> >> activists from our region.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Arzak
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
> >> From: p.inna at lycos.com
> >> To: achukin at riseup.net; liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> >> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
> >> unblocked on Facebook?!
> >>
> >> We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
> >> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into
> >> proper Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic
> >> blocking. I wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
> >>
> >>     I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB
> account
> >>     blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> >>     society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by
> FB by
> >>     reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was
> happend by
> >>     some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> >>     impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is
> completely
> >>     rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of
> his
> >>     personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> >>     burocracy of others.
> >>
> >>     03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan ?????:
> >>
> >>         I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is
> >>         negative against activists working in regions like yourself
> >>         and ours in Pakistan. We also have a list of Facebook users
> >>         and activists pages that have been blocked on reports of
> >>         government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can unblock
> >>         your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as
> >>         per their policy to submit a photo identification document.
> >>         Anyone on the list have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak
> >>         Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600 From: p.inna at lycos.com
> >>         <mailto:p.inna at lycos.com> To:
> >>         liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> >>         <mailto:liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu> Subject:
> >>         [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked
> >>         on Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my
> >>         country of origin is at war. I created several groups on
> >>         Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a
> >>         political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> >>         over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
> >>         orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I
> >>         am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am
> >>         not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my
> >>         friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed
> >>         Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> >>         pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside
> >>         social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the
> >>         threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on
> >>         Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a
> >>         report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> >>         demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online.
> >>         Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular
> >>         threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my
> >>         identification documents via insecure online channels. I did
> >>         add that I can show them to a legitimate representative or
> >>         even in Skype, but they can't expect a photocopy of a driving
> >>         license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted
> >>         through some suspicious form online. Only last month Facebook
> >>         has come under fire for biased political blocking of accounts
> >>         of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> >>         constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls.
> >>         The petition, which has already collected close to 15000
> >>         signatures, states: "Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these
> >>         reports by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public
> >>         figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become
> >>         so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> >>         efficient tool of the Kremlin."
> >>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> >>         Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny
> >>         multiple times and has been called discriminatory. Petition by
> >>         performers, which collected over 40000 signatures asserts:
> >>         "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using your
> >>         real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot
> >>         emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or
> >>         isn't a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing
> >>         names get locked out of their accounts while people with
> >>         account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without
> >>         scrutiny."
> >>
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> >>         People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook
> >>         too.
> >>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> >>         Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your
> >>         friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that
> >>         name on Facebook, you should be able to do that," he said. In
> >>         this case, he said, the policy "should be able to support
> >>         everyone using their own real names, including everyone in the
> >>         transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is
> >>         Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of
> >>         what his staff does. When will Facebook start treating its
> >>         users with basic respect, when will it stop political blocking
> >>         and discrimination?
> >>
> >>
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> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:41:16 +0200
> From: Andre Rebentisch <tabesin at gmail.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] What should the "liberation tech"
>         response be to ISIS-related recruiting online?
> Message-ID: <5599501C.9090408 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
>
>
> On 02.07.2015 15:18, carlo von lynX wrote:
> > - Yes, the recruiters would enjoy Secrecy of Correspondence
> >   enabling them to recruit without governments watching.
>
>
> I guess young persons in these nations are subject to the same sort of
> "recruitment" for Western ideas.
> In Hegelian model of Geist we have to acknowledge that these ideas and
> efforts exist.
>
> We are partisan in this conflict.
>
> --- A
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 13:29:16 -0300
> From: hellekin <hellekin at gnu.org>
> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <55995B5C.8070703 at gnu.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
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> On 07/04/2015 03:30 PM, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
> > Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
> > community on Earth. Activists will need to use it
> >
> *** I'm sorry but I think the opposite: first Facebook is not a
> community but a large collection of people, unless you consider a
> community as a dead society: one that cannot evolve on its own;
>
> second, matching online persona with govern-mental ID is Facebook's
> business: this is how they're "valued" so much--and that's an
> anti-privacy feature;
>
> third, if activists would be serious about preserving their privacy,
> they would support the activists making privacy-by-design online social
> software instead of begging a private surveillance company to help them.
> When activists prefer accepting "privacy policies" that denies them
> their privacy, to supporting decentralized and distributed alternatives
> to Facebook, they should be conscious of the consequences of their
> choice: unfortunately this seems to be happening in tragic circumstances
> .
>
> Now that your network has been compromised, Inna, you can only trust
> that your ID won't fall into the hands of your opponents when you
> transmit it to Facebook, or that Facebook will make an exception for
> you, which would jeopardize their future claim for "Real Names".
>
> By accepting their conditions, you accepted to relinquish your privacy,
> and the privacy of all the people in contact with you. No matter what
> privacy activists do, people prefer easy to prudent. That's what happens
> .
>
> Steve Weis' response, if he's really working at Facebook, demonstrates
> the inanity of Facebook to support activism: the mail should have come
> from a Facebook domain, be signed with a PGP key, and not ask for "a
> membership card". This person, besides its alleged good intention, has
> no clue what he's talking about.
>
> In your situation Inna, I would send a private message to known Facebook
> employees working in the security department using encrypted messages.
> If you can prove to them that you own the account, it should work,
> bypassing the stupid company policy: that would be an acceptable way for
> Facebook to "have it" without making official statements about
> contradicting their own reason of being.
>
> Whatever lawsuit you're thinking about (please be my guest), it won't
> solve your current issue fast enough for your immediate need.
>
> ==
> hk
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>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:12:00 +0000
> From: Sean Lynch <seanl at literati.org>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>, liberationtech
>         <liberationtech at mailman.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] What should the "liberation tech"
>         response be to ISIS-related recruiting online?
> Message-ID:
>         <CAHKdp-nqhaut2U2bVE4-9x7KGKCiMkK=
> 49b4b9JaO2AfQsgDDA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 06:18 carlo von lynX <lynX at time.to.get.psyced.org>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 06:00:08PM +0000, Sean Lynch wrote:
> > I don't think it's possible to simultaneously enable people to exercise
> > freedom of speech on the Internet while preventing the use of the net for
> > things we don't agree with. Recruiting for ISIS is just speech, and any
> > tools that would enable governments to stop that would also enable them
> to
> > stop other kinds of speech they find inconvenient.
>
> I have two suggestions to make to handle recruitment and
> abuse of suicidal radicalized persons:
>
> 1. Improve the web to better provide a rational debate on
>    all the issues rather than creating rhethorical bubbles
>    where the analysis of how evil capitalism and the west
>    have become is put in perspective where possible and
>    where the consequences of suggested action are especially
>    refuted - just because the world is evil doesn't entitle
>    you to make it even worse. Currently discussion platforms
>    on the web which are suited for rational debate rather
>    than populistic blabber are hard to find.
>
> 2. Take the criticism seriously. The capitalist west *is*
>    destroying the foundations of human life on planet Earth.
>    As long as there is no credible political effort to fix
>    this, we cannot expect frustrated youth not to radicalize
>    against the status quo.
>
> Had we proper democracy, the problem would probably not
> manifest itself:
>
> - Yes, the recruiters would enjoy Secrecy of Correspondence
>   enabling them to recruit without governments watching.
> - But, opposing political movements would not be impeded to
>   form, therefore political change would already be happening.
> - Thus if we had proper democracy we would already have fixed
>   wealth distribution and economic/ecologic sustainability
>   instead of wondering how it is possible that although 99,9%
>   of Earth population want things differently, the leading 0,1%
>   continue to do as they please.
> - Therefore the recruiters would not find anyone to recruit
>   for stupid kamikaze action happenings.
>
> In other words, terrorism is a problem caused by lack of
> democracy. The solution is to fix democracy.
>
>
> While we would probably disagree on some of the details, I definitely agree
> with the overall sentiment that the best way do deal with "bad" uses of the
> Internet is to create and improve tools that encourage good uses,
> especially uses that improve society. In particular, new and better ways to
> measure the effectiveness of policies and interventions would be
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> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:12:00 +0000
> From: Sean Lynch <seanl at literati.org>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>, liberationtech
>         <liberationtech at mailman.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] What should the "liberation tech"
>         response be to ISIS-related recruiting online?
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>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015, 06:18 carlo von lynX <lynX at time.to.get.psyced.org>
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 06:00:08PM +0000, Sean Lynch wrote:
> > I don't think it's possible to simultaneously enable people to exercise
> > freedom of speech on the Internet while preventing the use of the net for
> > things we don't agree with. Recruiting for ISIS is just speech, and any
> > tools that would enable governments to stop that would also enable them
> to
> > stop other kinds of speech they find inconvenient.
>
> I have two suggestions to make to handle recruitment and
> abuse of suicidal radicalized persons:
>
> 1. Improve the web to better provide a rational debate on
>    all the issues rather than creating rhethorical bubbles
>    where the analysis of how evil capitalism and the west
>    have become is put in perspective where possible and
>    where the consequences of suggested action are especially
>    refuted - just because the world is evil doesn't entitle
>    you to make it even worse. Currently discussion platforms
>    on the web which are suited for rational debate rather
>    than populistic blabber are hard to find.
>
> 2. Take the criticism seriously. The capitalist west *is*
>    destroying the foundations of human life on planet Earth.
>    As long as there is no credible political effort to fix
>    this, we cannot expect frustrated youth not to radicalize
>    against the status quo.
>
> Had we proper democracy, the problem would probably not
> manifest itself:
>
> - Yes, the recruiters would enjoy Secrecy of Correspondence
>   enabling them to recruit without governments watching.
> - But, opposing political movements would not be impeded to
>   form, therefore political change would already be happening.
> - Thus if we had proper democracy we would already have fixed
>   wealth distribution and economic/ecologic sustainability
>   instead of wondering how it is possible that although 99,9%
>   of Earth population want things differently, the leading 0,1%
>   continue to do as they please.
> - Therefore the recruiters would not find anyone to recruit
>   for stupid kamikaze action happenings.
>
> In other words, terrorism is a problem caused by lack of
> democracy. The solution is to fix democracy.
>
>
> While we would probably disagree on some of the details, I definitely agree
> with the overall sentiment that the best way do deal with "bad" uses of the
> Internet is to create and improve tools that encourage good uses,
> especially uses that improve society. In particular, new and better ways to
> measure the effectiveness of policies and interventions would be
> invaluable.
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> Message: 23
> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 12:53:44 -0600
> From: Inna Malina <p.inna at lycos.com>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>         unblocked on Facebook?!
> Message-ID: <8f397ca2afc33bec2588c463487d248a at lycos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> In Canada we can go public and can have protection from the authorities
> (though I can guarantee opponents can be rather nasty here too) , in
> countries with the record of human rights abuse, activists will likely
> face immediate persecution. Therefore, they will keep those cases
> private and try open new accounts etc. I will see how it goes and what
> resources and support I might have available for challenging Facebook
> legally. I think it would help improve Facebook policies and procedures
> and help activists around the world who don't have the luxury of
> protection we might have in Canada.
>
> The guy who wrote here saying he is from Facebook is the only real
> person (if it is Facebook in fact) that came forward. I don't have any
> other contacts in FB.
>
> When I signed in 2007 the rules were different and they have changed
> over the years. I personally had no idea about such policies and ID
> requirements until being blocked on request of opponents.
>
> Facebook obviously does not have any real HelpDesk with available
> customer support to deal with those cases and automatically favours the
> accuser whether it is a legitimate report or not. Then it requires IDs
> from those targeted and I question legality of these procedures. They
> need to invest into HelpDesk and real people to deal with the reports. I
> think it is pretty obvious that if an account opened in last month with
> 2 friends, no timeline activity reports other accounts, which have been
> for years, with tons of friends and photos, there is something wrong
> with penalizing the real accounts/people. There should be other ways to
> prove that it is someone's account without mining government or other
> photo/birth-date IDs.
>
> If people have been writing and creating petitions with many thousands
> signed urging Facebook to stop political blocking and discriminatory
> practices, there is something to it.
>
>  I am sorry I am not an expert on online social software and won't be
> useful there, but will definitely support others who are capable.
>
> Thank you for everyone's insights and help. It is much appreciated.
>
> So far no media inquiries and my account is still blocked. I tried
> alternative account it was blocked as well asking my ID.
>
> Will keep you posted if there are developments,
>
> Inna
>
> On 2015-07-05 10:29 am, hellekin wrote:
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA512
> >
> > On 07/04/2015 03:30 PM, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
> >
> >> Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it
> >
> > *** I'm sorry but I think the opposite: first Facebook is not a
> > community but a large collection of people, unless you consider a
> > community as a dead society: one that cannot evolve on its own;
> >
> > second, matching online persona with govern-mental ID is Facebook's
> > business: this is how they're "valued" so much--and that's an
> > anti-privacy feature;
> >
> > third, if activists would be serious about preserving their privacy,
> > they would support the activists making privacy-by-design online social
> > software instead of begging a private surveillance company to help them.
> > When activists prefer accepting "privacy policies" that denies them
> > their privacy, to supporting decentralized and distributed alternatives
> > to Facebook, they should be conscious of the consequences of their
> > choice: unfortunately this seems to be happening in tragic circumstances
> > .
> >
> > Now that your network has been compromised, Inna, you can only trust
> > that your ID won't fall into the hands of your opponents when you
> > transmit it to Facebook, or that Facebook will make an exception for
> > you, which would jeopardize their future claim for "Real Names".
> >
> > By accepting their conditions, you accepted to relinquish your privacy,
> > and the privacy of all the people in contact with you. No matter what
> > privacy activists do, people prefer easy to prudent. That's what happens
> > .
> >
> > Steve Weis' response, if he's really working at Facebook, demonstrates
> > the inanity of Facebook to support activism: the mail should have come
> > from a Facebook domain, be signed with a PGP key, and not ask for "a
> > membership card". This person, besides its alleged good intention, has
> > no clue what he's talking about.
> >
> > In your situation Inna, I would send a private message to known Facebook
> > employees working in the security department using encrypted messages.
> > If you can prove to them that you own the account, it should work,
> > bypassing the stupid company policy: that would be an acceptable way for
> > Facebook to "have it" without making official statements about
> > contradicting their own reason of being.
> >
> > Whatever lawsuit you're thinking about (please be my guest), it won't
> > solve your current issue fast enough for your immediate need.
> >
> > ==
> > hk
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> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2015 23:34:06 +0200
> From: Moritz Bartl <moritz at headstrong.de>
> To: liberationtech <liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: [liberationtech] Dead Tree Lovers -- Call for Books
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>               DEAD TREE LOVERS -- CALL FOR BOOKS
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>    tl;dr: We want your books. Send them to us.
>
>    In December 2014, over 500 books were brought to Chaos
>    Communication Congress in Hamburg for an experiment:
>    During the busy days of Congress, with over 12.000
>    visitors, how will people react to a library of dead
>    trees?
>    In partnership with La Quadrature Du Th? and the Congress
>    team, a cozy reading area was set up on the fourth floor.
>    For us Dead Tree Lovers, to see all seats and carpet space
>    occupied almost 24/7 by interested readers filled us with
>    delight.
>
>    The library lives on! And has considerably grown since. The
>    database now contains over 666 titles. As a travelling
>    library, we will bring it to places near you, to
>    hacker events and hackerspaces, to other public spaces.
>    It is currently hosted and accessible around the clock at
>    OpenLab Augsburg, Germany, for free borrowing or cheap
>    purchase, replacing existing books by other used copies.
>    The database is limited in that it does not yet contain
>    all of the historical material that we have so far
>    collected on the earlier days of hacking, pre-80s. Thanks
>    to Werner Pieper, a friend of Wau Holland and publisher,
>    we have started to add rare material from the good old
>    times when hacking was part of the broader political
>    counterculture movement and not yet mainstream. Thanks to
>    the CCC, we are now hosting a complete paper archive of
>    the Chaos Computer Club publication 'Die Datenschleuder'.
>    The Humanistische Union (HU) donated most (all?) of their
>    publications.
>
>    WE WANT MORE. The library needs your help. Please send
>    us your books and reading suggestions for us to hunt down
>    paper copies! Or better yet, send us offers first.
>    We're open for anything tech, political, scifi, as long
>    as you feel it influenced your life profoundly and is
>    worth reading. The focus is hacker culture and its history
>    in the broader sense. It is not necessary to give your
>    books away forever, we can log the source and return
>    it if and when you want it back.
>
>    Dead Tree Lovers c/o OpenLab Augsburg e.V.
>    Elisenstrasse 1
>    D-86159 Augsburg, Germany
>
>    JOIN! We have started a mailing list to discuss all kinds
>    of book matters: book scanning, library software (or lack
>    thereof), book recommendations etc.
>
>                                    the DTL team // July 2015
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>    irc.hackint.org #deadtreelovers
>    https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Dead_Tree_Lovers
>    https://www.librarything.com/catalog/hacklib
>    https://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/deadtreelovers
>
>    rss: https://www.librarything.com/rss/recent/hacklib
>    twitter: https://twitter.com/hacklibrary
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> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:45:03 -0400
> From: Deborah Elizabeth Finn <deborah_elizabeth_finn at post.harvard.edu>
> To: liberationtech at lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Free Massachusetts Nonprofit Network webinar
>         on "Knowledge Management for Nonprofits" (July 20th)
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> Dear Liberation Tech Colleagues:
>
> (Putting on my Annkissam hat.)
>
> I want to alert you to this Massachusetts Nonprofit Network webinar, and
> encourage you to register for it.
>
> To register, or to find out more about it, please follow this link:
>
> https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/7849730535762310402
>
> Annkissam's own Kevin Palmer will be the webinar leader!
>
> If you're wondering whether you need knowledge management, then ask
> yourself if your nonprofit has ever experienced any of the following:
>
> -When a staff member gets sick, takes a leave, retires, resigns, or goes on
> vacation, then other employees are unable to locate crucial information.
>
> -The executive director (or another top-level staff member) is scheduled to
> retire, but his/her most crucial organizational knowledge is not written
> down, and there is no strategy in place for conveying it to his/her
> successor.
>
> -Project teams generate multiple versions of key documents, but it?s hard
> to gather all the changes in one place. No one knows for sure which version
> is the final one, and the wrong version may be used by accident.
>
> -Manuals of policies and procedures exist, but staff members have
> difficulty finding the relevant passage in them when they have a specific
> question that urgently needs to be answered.
>
> -Staff members don?t know about existing resources and reports that could
> help them make good decisions that are aligned with the executive team?s
> policies.
>
> -Standard information that is needed for a routine operation must be
> gathered by hand from disparate paper and electronic sources each time it
> is needed.
>
> -It is difficult to determine whether the nonprofit organization is meeting
> its mission fully, partially, or not at all.
>
> If you answered ?yes? to any of these items, then you are experiencing
> problems. Effective knowledge management is simply that which enables your
> nonprofit to overcome these problems.
>
> Best regards from Deborah
>
> Deborah Elizabeth Finn
> Consultant to Annkissam
> deborah at annkissam.com
> www.annkissam.com
> 617-504-8188 (mobile phone)
> 617-958-1959 (voice mail)
> @Deborah909 (Twitter)
> Deborah909 (Skype)
> www.linkedin.com/in/deborah909 (LinkedIn)
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