[liberationtech] Whatsapp, a Trojan horse for seekers of easy privacy?

[Al Billings]

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:20 AM, J.M. Porup <jm at porup.com> wrote:
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> On 01/15/15 13:45, Al Billings wrote:
>> Insisting that we both can and cannot (at the same time) trust people like Moxie simply because they live in the USA and the NSA exists is stupid. I don’t see a suggestion of what jurisdiction the author thinks people can live within where there won’t be the same issues. From there, the list of demands gets rather high and the list of solutions non-existent. 
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>> I’m well aware of the Snowden revelations. I’m also well aware that people like Moxie are doing good work to try to counter some of the NSA grabs of Internet data. The post read like crazy person FUD.
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>> Which country should people be in where the government isn’t going to try to potentially legally compel them to do things or spy on their communications? Where is your utopia of freedom?
> 
> There is no utopia of freedom. But we can avoid the dystopia of tyranny
> the United States is rapidly becoming.

By going where? Please do say.