[liberationtech] XKeyScore code authenticity - genuine [was: messing with XKeyScore]
Nathan Andrew Fain
nathan at squimp.com
Sun Jul 6 16:08:09 PDT 2014
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and now for something more lighthearted: When citizenship is dictated
by regular expressions you know your democracy is built with the wrong
programming language
On 06/07/2014 20:23, coderman wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Andrew Fain
> <nathan at squimp.com> wrote:
>> ... the half hazard rules protecting five eyes users. Apparently
>> as someone (terrorist or not) accessing Tor from the five eyes
>> nations you are filtered out. If you also happen to have looked
>> at the linux journal there is no filtering for five eyes so you
>> would have been tagged. This inconsistency shows how foot loose
>> things were/are at the NSA.
>>
>> This would fit with what Diane Roark said in her interview with
>> Frontline [1]. She protested the removal of strict filtering for
>> US Citizens and was buffed by every side. In that light it is
>> clear the US made the entire cache free game for one or many
>> engineers without anyone looking over their shoulder. A ship
>> early fix later policy many engineers love so much.
>
> well said. any protections of the nature ThinThread would have
> made systemic and pervasive are instead left as ad-hoc, opt-in type
> filters upon what is so clearly full take (at the deep inspection
> point at least. i agree with Graham that it is far to expensive to
> mirror all traffic everywhere back to NSA)
>
> i also completely disagree with the legal interpretation of "a
> search" occurring only when a human analyst sees the intelligence
> gathered, and not when the intelligence gear gathers it.
>
>
>
>> In the end, with their budget, a 50% reduction in efficiency from
>> a regex would just justify a few hundred more distributed
>> computing nodes. The only person in the chain that may question
>> this would be a pro-surveillance tax payer that knows regular
>> expressions. So it may not indicate the age of the filters at
>> all.
>
> i never considered the "hire more mediocre analysts for budget
> justification" angle, which is impressive, as i'm usually a pretty
> jaded individual ;)
>
>
>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/united-states-of-secrets/the-frontline-interview-diane-roark/
>
>>
> you might the mix a friend made for the Tor hackfest a fun listen:
>
> two versions (which has better voice over?)
>
> https://peertech.org/files/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix.mp3
>
>
https://peertech.org/files/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix2.mp3
>
> [ cache friendly plaintext
> http://207.198.103.187:8081/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix.mp3
>
>
http://207.198.103.187:8081/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix2.mp3
> ]
>
>
> best regards,
>
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