[liberationtech] [SocialSwarm-D] In Memoriam Aaron Swartz

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 12 January 2014 17:51, hellekin <hellekin at gnu.org> wrote:

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> On 01/12/2014 04:15 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> >> It is true that Ted Nelson once described the web as packaging.
> >> The reason for this was that the browser existed already, as did
> >> forms of HTML.  HTTP was new as was the browser connected to the
> >> internet.  Also the first browser worldwideweb was an editor,
> >> functionality that was removed later.
> >
> >> Aaron was a big believer in making the web better, and was a
> >> regular attendee at the Linked Data meetups in Boston.
> >
> >> By all means honor his memory, we should all do this, but please
> >> try not to use tragedy to reflect your own personal views, which
> >> he may not have shared.
> >
> *** Your interpretation is paranoid. As you're the one mentioning the
> Web and Linked Data, are you not the one who is abusing my genuine
> remembrance to serve your own agenda?
>

OK, this is a misunderstanding, thank you for clarifying offline.  The only
reference I know of Ted Nelson referring to technology as packaging was in
his series, "Computers for Cynics", in reference to the "Real Story of the
World Wide Web".  As you may know Ted was very much in inspiration for the
WWW, with his Xanadu system.

I was unaware he also made this reference to the iphone, which was your
reference.  In which case I apologize unreservedly for jumping to a
conclusion.


>
> In addition to "explaining" what Ted Nelson understands as "packaging
> vs. technology" into a simplistic form, pushing meaning and intention
> into my words that were never there, you're suggesting that you know
> better what Aaron Swartz
> would-have-thought-if-he-was-still-alive-one-year-later! Really, you
> could have abstained from throwing such an abject comment, especially
> sweetened from the attack you sent privately, accusing me of "tacit
> attack on the Web" and telling me what to do or what not to do.
>

FWIW, I didnt see any animosity at all in our private exchange, in fact, I
thought it was productive.

As I said it was a misunderstanding, Aaron was an active member of the
Linked Data community, something that I've collaborated with you on in the
past.  He probably would have not like the centralization we see today from
large companies such as apple, google, facebook etc. but his primary work
was directed towards making the web better.


>
> Stop projecting onto others your frustrations, Melvin. If you keep
> seeing me as anti-Web, it's your problem, not mine. That does not
> serve anything, and certainly not to respect anyone's memory.
>

I mis interpreted your message, and for that I am sorry.  It wont happen
again.


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