[liberationtech] quid pro quo

[Lucas Gonze]

Again, the cash payments are a deception. They are in no way enough to
compensate these companies. Operational expenses associated with processing
data requests are a small part of the overall cost.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe at cdt.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 9/10/13 4:51 PM, Kyle Maxwell wrote:
> > In general, as has been well documented, the telcos and other firms
> > charge the government for data records. While possibly distasteful
> > ("they're making money off of giving our data to the gov!"), it makes
> > sense from an operational point of view: there are real, concrete
> > costs associated with storing, retrieving, and providing those data to
> > "valid" requests, not to mention the process of handling sensitive
> > requests in the first place. So I'm not sure the counter approach
> > ("provide it to us for free") is a good idea, either.
>
> Yes, some of the reporting in the last weeks about the NSA's black
> budget teased out these compensation relationships a bit, e.g.:
>
> NSA paying U.S. companies for access to communications networks
>
> http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-08-29/world/41712151_1_nsa-national-security-agency-companies
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