[liberationtech] Is spideroak really zero-knowledge?

elijah elijah at riseup.net
Tue Aug 13 02:52:50 PDT 2013


On 08/13/2013 12:32 AM, Tony Arcieri wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Percy Alpha <percyalpha at gmail.com
> <mailto:percyalpha at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     @Tony,
>     "The secret that keeps your data accessible to you alone is your
>     SpiderOak password, which is never transmitted to SpiderOak in its
>     original form." https://spideroak.com/engineering_matters
> 
> 
> Again, they seem to be talking about client-side encryption here. A
> zero-knowledge proof around a password looks a bit more like this:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Remote_Password_protocol#Protocol
> 
> Short of implementing something like SRP they don't have a true "zero
> knowledge" system IMO

Curious, they used to actually include some notes on how they use a zero
knowledge proof for authentication, but it has been taken down.
Waybackmachine has the old text:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130430135938/https://spideroak.com/engineering_matters

Perhaps they changed how they do authentication.

-elijah



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