[liberationtech] [guardian-dev] An email service that requires GPG/PGP?

Hans of Guardian hans at guardianproject.info
Fri Aug 9 11:11:02 PDT 2013


I think there would be some value to a system like that.  It would address a lot of real world threats but it will not address large scale government monitoring systems, which many governments have (US, China, UK, Iran, etc).

Sounds like you should team up with Tim Prepscius with his system that he's been posting about here.

.hc

On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote:

>  This probably sounds very strange, but *what if* someone ran an email
> service that required that all mails be GPG encrypted?
> 
>  So here's my idea: Barring the honor system, it would require a filter
> to look at message content to check for PGP headers.  And if said
> headers didn't exist, the message doesn't get sent.[1] There's no "Sent
> Mail" folder on the server, so if you want a copy, you'd need to have
> Thunderbird (etc) set up to store them locally.
> 
>  It wouldn't protect from metadata collection, but it would at least
> (to some extent) protect people from their own poor security decisions
> while emphasizing that options exist to protect themselves.
> 
> Considerations:
>    * This assumes that an order would arrive to disable PGP filter and
> enable a sent folder (eg, this idea assumes metadata is unprotected)
> 
>    * Those playing at home may recognize this as a naive Bayes
> classifier, given that the presence of PGP headers don't necessarily
> mean the actual message is encrypted. There are other (heavier) steps
> that could be taken, like checking for encryption on outbound with SJCL,
> but I think that probability is on our side here.
> 
>    * In the face of an NSL, the service would realistically either fall
> back to policy (removing tech-based enforcement by order) or shut down
> entirely.
> 
>  What does everyone think? Is this totally nuts or what?
> 
> best,
> Griffin
> 
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