[liberationtech] Freedom Hosting, Tormail Compromised // OnionCloud

[Jacob Appelbaum]

Maxim Kammerer:
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> 
>> Somewhere there is a line and clearly, we failed to meet
>> the high standards of a few folks on this list. I'm mostly curious if
>> that high standard will be expressed in a cohesive manner where we might
>> learn from it.
>>
> 
> Well, in the end, it's all done for the users. Keeping software up-to-date
> is easier than following advisories, even more so if there is an
> auto-update functionality. So I don't understand the big deal about not
> reissuing advisories for upstream projects, which takes a lot of time for
> dubious effect.

I tend to agree.

> 
> Although the point becomes moot once you are talking about libraries that
> are not directly used, unlike major Firefox-level applications. E.g.:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-openssl-vulnerability-tor-not-affected
> 

We wrote that because people asked us about those specific OpenSSL
issues, if I remember correctly...

>> http://pastebin.com/qWHDWCre
>>
>> It is awful for Mike and I can't even begin to find it funny in the
>> least. Though I'll take your point that it is rich with awful irony.
>>
> 
> I don't think anyone took those guys seriously back then (or anyone whose
> opinion matters, at least).
> 

Sadly, Mike took their harassment seriously. It was awful.

All the best,
Jacob